And into yours. Do you think the “reality” they’re presenting is honest?

Even if they’re not lying, they’re definitely not telling the truth.

That’s fair enough, and sorry for jumping to accusing you of dishonesty. To be honest I’m totally shocked that you and so many others in this thread have had such an easy time installing software through the CLI. I have had loads of trouble for the same user case as you, to the extent that I’ve had to completely give up on installing a variety of programs that didn’t have GUI installers available.

Our experiences are totally opposite, so it makes sense that we have opposite stances on the CLI.

I’m talking about installing ordinary programs via the CLI in the 2020s. I have had loads of complicated installs for software (no LLMs) just for personal use in the last 5 years. I’ve heard the same story from other people who’ve switched to Linux.

I think what’s happening is that people who insist that the CLI is easy just don’t tend to run into the problems I’m talking about, whereas for CLI haters it’s the norm.

That is an oversimplification and you know it. Why is it so hard for CLI people to be honest?

Installing software on the command line is often a nightmare, requiring multiple commands and throwing error messages that you can only find mention of in one unresolved thread on some obscure forum somewhere.

Plus, there are so many different commands that you have other CLI users saying that they need to pull up reference tools to remember how to do different actions. I have only ever needed to that once or twice ever for GUIs.

Get real.

The Friendica UI is terrible, unfortunately. Way too complex.

To expand on your second point in case anyone isn’t sure what you mean:

Different browsers render webpages slightly differently, because they use different “engines”. The most popular browsers are Chrome or Edge, both of these which use the Blink engine, whereas Firefox uses a different engine called Gecko.

Web developers want their websites to work for most people, so they develop websites that are optimized to run in Blink, which means they sometimes don’t look as intended on Gecko (Firefox). It’s not Firefox’s fault that developers are doing this – of course developers want to reach the most users possible. There’s nothing wrong with Gecko, either – if it were more popular, then developers would build sites for it instead of for Blink. But, this issue of sites breaking can sometimes turn people off.

(Conversely, I develop for Firefox first, so sometimes webpages I make don’t render properly in Chrome/Edge. That’s not ideal, but I don’t care much. I think Gecko is the better + more consistent engine, and I’m not interested in chasing mass appeal.)

it predicts toxic masculinity 20 years before it became a widespread phenomenon

20 years before it became a widespread phenomenon

err… toxic masculinity has been mainstream since the beginning of recorded history.

Males in Athens who in adult life willingly submitted to anal penetration were derided as kinaidoi, a term of abuse which had the connotation of effeminacy.

-Professor Paul Cartledge

So you, a normal person, join and instantly when a meme or comment allude to being altruistic, you leave?

Lol, the lack of self-awareness in your comment is astounding. You immediately jumped to interpreting them in the least charitable way possible, instead of just asking them to clarify like a normal person. You are exactly the type of leftist that pushes a lot of people away from using Lemmy.

Who needs conservative saboteurs when you have leftists to do their work for them?

That would be cool!

you can’t join Signal there. I don’t know whether it’s due to sanctions or if the government is blocking 2FA SMS messages. In either case, it is impossible to join without a phone number confirmation.

What do you mean? You need a phone number to join Signal in any country.

I doubt I can successfully persuade 100+ people to migrate to signal just because of my political crusade.

Don’t know till you try! And if you’re playing the long game, you don’t need to convince 100+ people – the more individuals that join, the easier it will become to convince everyone else to make the switch too.

(oh btw “We are in X country which is not in N eyes” is just marketing)

Why do you say this? There are real data-sharing agreements between the Eyes.

Doesn’t even need some complicated backdoors or anything it just needs to find an OPSEC slip-up

This already happened with kolektiva, unfortunately, but from what I hear they’ve since strengthened their security.

The UI is fucking awful and way too complex, so it’s difficult to get anything done. I’ve tried two different instances and found them both to be unusable.

It’s a shame because Friendica is way more powerful than most Fediverse platforms – they leverage way more of ActivityHub’s potential, such as a system for calendars + events. But the UI needs to get sorted out before it’s ready for mass adoption.

I don’t agree? Even in big cities, I’ve often seen marketplace posts from people with mutual friends, so I could easily verify their trustworthiness. In other scenarios I can at least check to see if their posting history and/or profile seems legit or if there are any red flags. Having more data helps people decide whether to trust someone, but Craigslist doesn’t allow for that.

At least when I used Craigslist, there was no social network element to it, so it was difficult to determine the trustworthiness of any given poster.

For that reason, I don’t want a Fediverse clone of Craigslist – I want an existing Fediverse platform to add a marketplace. I will not use anonymous marketplaces.

Really not a reasonable take. Social media is great for discovering new things, people, and groups of interest. Sure, you can do that outside of social media too, but in a much slower and more limited way.

Also, lots of housebound disabled people use social media for their main source of socializing.

Yes, loads. It’s very useful for non-anonymous groups + events.

I don’t think Steam users really represent the average person…

This is a stupid distinction to make. There is no speech that doesn’t affect people materially.

“Free speech” is a morally neutral thing. Most leftists don’t go on about “free speech” because it’s not a value we hold. We value tolerance of people of different races, genders, sexualities, and so on. The issue is not speech in general – it’s the content of speech that matters. “Free speech” sidesteps the issue of what is actually being said.