To be fair, variety makes groups more resilient. If Signal were to ever become compromised somehow, people who use other apps like Session will be okay.

It’s not a zero-sum game, either – people can use Signal and other apps.

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It has to do with the societal consequences of how them “valuing their time” impacts people. Nurses refusing to do volunteer nursing has little impact on the overall system of access to healthcare.

Healthcare is heavily regulated through legislation, and is going to be free or paid or corporate or not corporate largely as a result of the legislation. Nurses can’t just do what they want. People who are concerned about the state of healthcare should therefore change things by targeting legislation, not by targeting nurses.

Creative work is not like this. Creatives refusing to do do volunteer creative work means that either they will charge for their work, which creates a barrier to access, or they will use (and push others to use) platforms like YouTube and TokTok that make money from ad data.

The former choice results in class differences in access to art, and the latter choice results in everyone using platforms that have proven themselves to be hostile to minoritized groups and progressive causes. These outcomes aren’t legislated – they are the result of creatives choosing to “value their time”.

In otherwords, creatives choosing to “value their time” means that they will happily enforce class-based restrictions in access to art, and will happily support conservative corporations and surveillance capitalism.

And I practice what I preach, too. I have spent thousands of hours developing free software and making free educational materials for people, donating my labour to support progressive causes and supporting others who do the same. Creatives who insist on charging for their work are a ball and chain on the movements I support. They are leeches and class traitors.

Creatives should value other people. Fuck their time.

No, my point specifically relates to creative work. You said in your comment:

under our current economic model people require money to survive and if they do not get money for doing their creative work they might not be able to continue making that work.

This is false, basically. They can do other types of work. Creative work can be done without making money for it. Plenty of people have a day job and make creative work in their free time. The same option is not available for most other types of work, such as government, doctors, lawyers, etc. If you try to do these types of jobs outside of the framework of a regulated business, you’ll get the book thrown at you.

The issue I’m getting at isn’t “are you responsible for the actions you take to make a living”. Rather, I’m getting at the issue of “does creative work require becoming an employee of a capitalist company, thereby siding with its shareholders in having a vested interest in increasing that company’s profits regardless of the societal damage caused?”

The answer to that question is a resounding “no”. Creatives need to grow a spine and get a day job.

you’re not a leftist unless you have daddies money to support you wasting 100 hours on a 20m video.

I didn’t say that, though. Clearly it’s not worth engaging with you.

It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete

Yes, it is, if your desire to get paid causes you to remain on corporate-controlled social media, to the detriment of society.

Not to mention, plenty of people can and do put hundreds of hours of work into projects that they don’t ask for payment for.

“Content creators” who get paid through advertisements are class traitors whose interests are aligned with the capitalist class. They will fuck over society to make a buck for themselves.

And into yours. Do you think the “reality” they’re presenting is honest?

Even if they’re not lying, they’re definitely not telling the truth.

That’s fair enough, and sorry for jumping to accusing you of dishonesty. To be honest I’m totally shocked that you and so many others in this thread have had such an easy time installing software through the CLI. I have had loads of trouble for the same user case as you, to the extent that I’ve had to completely give up on installing a variety of programs that didn’t have GUI installers available.

Our experiences are totally opposite, so it makes sense that we have opposite stances on the CLI.

I’m talking about installing ordinary programs via the CLI in the 2020s. I have had loads of complicated installs for software (no LLMs) just for personal use in the last 5 years. I’ve heard the same story from other people who’ve switched to Linux.

I think what’s happening is that people who insist that the CLI is easy just don’t tend to run into the problems I’m talking about, whereas for CLI haters it’s the norm.

That is an oversimplification and you know it. Why is it so hard for CLI people to be honest?

Installing software on the command line is often a nightmare, requiring multiple commands and throwing error messages that you can only find mention of in one unresolved thread on some obscure forum somewhere.

Plus, there are so many different commands that you have other CLI users saying that they need to pull up reference tools to remember how to do different actions. I have only ever needed to that once or twice ever for GUIs.

Get real.

The Friendica UI is terrible, unfortunately. Way too complex.

To expand on your second point in case anyone isn’t sure what you mean:

Different browsers render webpages slightly differently, because they use different “engines”. The most popular browsers are Chrome or Edge, both of these which use the Blink engine, whereas Firefox uses a different engine called Gecko.

Web developers want their websites to work for most people, so they develop websites that are optimized to run in Blink, which means they sometimes don’t look as intended on Gecko (Firefox). It’s not Firefox’s fault that developers are doing this – of course developers want to reach the most users possible. There’s nothing wrong with Gecko, either – if it were more popular, then developers would build sites for it instead of for Blink. But, this issue of sites breaking can sometimes turn people off.

(Conversely, I develop for Firefox first, so sometimes webpages I make don’t render properly in Chrome/Edge. That’s not ideal, but I don’t care much. I think Gecko is the better + more consistent engine, and I’m not interested in chasing mass appeal.)

it predicts toxic masculinity 20 years before it became a widespread phenomenon

20 years before it became a widespread phenomenon

err… toxic masculinity has been mainstream since the beginning of recorded history.

Males in Athens who in adult life willingly submitted to anal penetration were derided as kinaidoi, a term of abuse which had the connotation of effeminacy.

-Professor Paul Cartledge

So you, a normal person, join and instantly when a meme or comment allude to being altruistic, you leave?

Lol, the lack of self-awareness in your comment is astounding. You immediately jumped to interpreting them in the least charitable way possible, instead of just asking them to clarify like a normal person. You are exactly the type of leftist that pushes a lot of people away from using Lemmy.

Who needs conservative saboteurs when you have leftists to do their work for them?

That would be cool!

you can’t join Signal there. I don’t know whether it’s due to sanctions or if the government is blocking 2FA SMS messages. In either case, it is impossible to join without a phone number confirmation.

What do you mean? You need a phone number to join Signal in any country.

I doubt I can successfully persuade 100+ people to migrate to signal just because of my political crusade.

Don’t know till you try! And if you’re playing the long game, you don’t need to convince 100+ people – the more individuals that join, the easier it will become to convince everyone else to make the switch too.

(oh btw “We are in X country which is not in N eyes” is just marketing)

Why do you say this? There are real data-sharing agreements between the Eyes.

Doesn’t even need some complicated backdoors or anything it just needs to find an OPSEC slip-up

This already happened with kolektiva, unfortunately, but from what I hear they’ve since strengthened their security.

The UI is fucking awful and way too complex, so it’s difficult to get anything done. I’ve tried two different instances and found them both to be unusable.

It’s a shame because Friendica is way more powerful than most Fediverse platforms – they leverage way more of ActivityHub’s potential, such as a system for calendars + events. But the UI needs to get sorted out before it’s ready for mass adoption.

I don’t agree? Even in big cities, I’ve often seen marketplace posts from people with mutual friends, so I could easily verify their trustworthiness. In other scenarios I can at least check to see if their posting history and/or profile seems legit or if there are any red flags. Having more data helps people decide whether to trust someone, but Craigslist doesn’t allow for that.