• PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
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    13 days ago

    My moms a boomer and this has been her go-to.

    “Being gay wasn’t a thing when I was younger. No one was gay! Or trans! It’s just a trend now because people don’t discipline their kids anymore!”

    Yes mom because they were afraid of people like you.

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      13 days ago

      Why did they feel the ‘need’ to enact anti-sodomy laws which sometimes even specifically mentioned same-sex relationships if there were no gay people?

      My mom has moved onto the Bargaining phase from Denial, pivoting to saying, “well sure there were always a few, but most of them now are doing it because it’s popular, and aren’t ‘real’ gay people”.

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        Lmaooo, “popular”. I find it so funny when people unironically think that

        Like, yeah, I’m just gonna go date and sleep with a person I’m not attracted to because it’s “popular”, lol

        Though the fucked up thing is that, this is something that has happened with gay people trying to be straight

        • When I was in middle school, I was sorta wondering if guys just pretended sexual attraction was a thing because it was expected of them.

          Then I realized that such seemed like a ridiculous theory (although I still assumed it was exaggerated for social reasons and didn’t really think sexual attracted was related to interest in sex for a long time after…).

    • Psythik@lemm.ee
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      13 days ago

      Move out if you haven’t already, that way you can freely call her out on her bullshit all you want without consequence.

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        13 days ago

        Calling her out while moved out will still have consequence. My entire family thinks the same way or more extreme.

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      12 days ago

      Your mom’s a dumbass, there’s no shortage of stories from ancient Rome and Greece of gay activity.

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      12 days ago

      What kind of parental discipline keeps people from being gay?

      I don’t think there’s ever going to be an answer to that question that isn’t somehow abusive.

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        12 days ago

        Before I read your second sentence I was already saying in my head “The hitting kind, duh”

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        12 days ago

        Cayenne pepper forced in the mouth, lots of hitting, throwing shoes, lots of yelling.

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    13 days ago

    Or it’s that all the Teflon and pollution and microplastics have totally fucked up our biology. Not sure of everything on the women’s side, but at least on the men’s side the average testosterone levels are lower and sperm counts are way lower.

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        Now you just sound like a dumbass for posting your little link without doing so much as a cursory Google check to learn that my statement is an actual fact.

        Also, your link makes it look like I’m saying only gays have lower tes levels?

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      13 days ago

      Let’s not make unfounded and harmful claims that being LGBTQ is some sort of toxin-related defect, unless you’re prepared to provide some sort of evidence to that effect. There is ample historical evidence of the existence of LGBT individuals dating back thousands of years.

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      13 days ago

      this is a dumb take.

      it’s pure speculation, there is no proven connection between teflon or microplastics or whatever and being gay (or i should say LGBTQ_).

      even with the testosterone thing being teue: since when does low testosterone mean LGBTQ+?

      this stupid take just strengthes the idea that being LGBTQ+ is some kind of illness, which really doesn’t help anyone.

      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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        13 days ago

        But saying there was less LGBT boomers because it was more of a stigma isn’t an even dumber take? It’s at least an actual fact that all of the crap that’s been polluting up our bodies has messed with our hormones and such. The closet boomer theory is almost entirely conjecture.

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          It’s at least an actual fact that all of the crap that’s been polluting up our bodies has messed with our hormones and such

          yeah, so what? who says that this wouldn’t lead to less gay people?

          remember “don’t ask, don’t tell?” that basically meant that officially, 0% of men in the military were gay. obviously there were way more than 0% gays in the military. i don’t think it is a “dumb take” to say there weren’t necessarily less gays back then, because we know for a fact that there were way more gays than what was reflected in stastistics.

          i am certain that there are studies on this, too.

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            It’s hilarious that gay people can’t accept that there’s a reason they might be gay, and that it isn’t simply “because”. Like, I don’t get why there’s a fight against there being a reason they’re gay. Like for some reason you can’t entertain the possibility that you’re gay due to other factors.

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              There’s a black hole sized gulf between “perhaps there is a reason for homosexuality” and “homosexuality is caused by Teflon and micro plastics”

              If you aren’t going to even attempt to point at something that even comes close to backing up your claim then you’re going to be very disappointed with the amount of people who take you seriously.

  • I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org
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    Dinosaurs weren’t discovered until the late 1800s. Dinosaur fossils obviously didn’t exist before then. All of the fossils being found in the 1900s was just a fad.

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    .Or they chose to live in a relationship lied to a woman, have a bunch of kids and acted like assholes and destroyed the family. Then, because they were not a real person, because they never developed a sense of self, they became a narcissistic sociopath and took it out on everyone around them, as they appeared to be charming. A lot of our social issues and antisocial behavior is due to repression. So even your enemy is somewhat of a victim, but it doesn’t give him an excuse to harm you. I believe in behavior modification. Most boomers are conformist cowards with no good advice. I kick these bastards out of the closet. I got a gaydar

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    I knew a boomer that once gave my male friend some advice.

    “Never marry a lesbian. She might be able to force it for a while, but she will always eventually turn back.”

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    13 days ago

    Idk, the number of 60-80 year olds on my gay fetish apps sliding into my DMs seem to contradict this “lack of boomer LBGTQ” idea.

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    13 days ago

    Boomers aren’t exactly well known for understanding concepts like “survivorship bias”.

    Don’t you know? All of their friends survived covid!

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    Also, there’s probably a chunk of them who couldn’t identify as a particular brand of queer, because they didn’t even know it was an option. Ace and non-binary folks come to mind.

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    The 60s and 70s free love movement, or just rock and roll/dancing “hedonism” had bigger barriers to break down than organized lgbtq identity movements. The simple freedom to have sex with who you wanted with criminal immunity was “the ask”. There didn’t need to be pride in doing it, and socially, it was still an insult even after it was legal.