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PHOTOPEAAAAAA
Is this pronounced:
Photo-PEE
Or
fo - TOW PIA (like a play on the words photo and utopia)
Admittedly, I just make the occasional meme for friends, but Photopea has been a 1:1 replacement for Photoshop for me.
I keep hearing about this thing. Does it really do all the photoshop things? adjustment layers, masks, dodge+burn, all that stuff? and I guess, does it do it well, with big files?
He does a lot of things, in particular layer positioning/whatever this is called. I can’t really compare with PS though, since I don’t have it, but to open and do basic stuff on complex psd files that other software do not handle well, it’s ok.
No idea how large you can get with it though.
It’s great for a free thing. Better then GIMP at least.
Can I download and run it on my computer without using Internet?
You can install it as a Progressive Web App in Chromium based browsers, the GNOME web browser and anything else that supports PWAs (firefox with the special extension, for example) and as a PWA it does run offline. But you cannot download it yourself and run it manually as the code is not available to download.
@graphene @Tattorack usually PWAs can be easily fetched and re-hosted locally
Can I download and run it on my computer without using Internet?
Non-destructive editing was way, way more important. Shapes can be done differently anyway.
and that is why I always keep my receipt
It’s so tiring…
Use the circle selection tool, mark an area, fill it with a solid colour/gradient/texture or morph it further or stroke the path to create a hollow circle
So many options that amount to more than just a shape tool.
Same energy as “so tired of idiots who want right click>new file on gnome, are you too stupid to open the terminal, cd 20 times and use the shittiest text editor ever to create a new file and save it and then open nautilus and navigate to the same directory, or something?”
Comparable to driving from washington to argentina instead of taking a plane (for those who don’t know, there are no roads connecting north to south america). This is literally the attitude why there will never be year of the linux.
Spoiler: most people don’t care about “year of the linux desktop”. Linux works for me and those losers on windows be damned. Why should we cater to them? Especially since they won’t put any effort into learning linux.
I wouldn’t have switched personally if Linux ui was still shit. I put the effort into learning because the initial experience was good enough to warrent delving deeper into it.
Good UX benefits everyone.
More users = more support for programs and hardware on linux, more open source and freedom policies rather than maximising shareholder value. Less and less troubleshooting and figuring out why your shit you really need to work doesn’t work.
It benefits everyone, even the people who are in denial about good ux.
I mean id you think navigating through folders in terminal and using other shitty tools to create a template file is mentally stimulating or difficult task and teaches anything about linux other than that linux is unfinished and has massive oversights, you are not as clever as you think you are.
So many options that amount to more than just a shape tool.
If I wanted to learn some arcane bullshit to draw a circle Id just learn C++.
Sorry best I can do is a programmable turtle that moves around as a pen.
Aww, the poor turtle is trying their very best.
That’s several more steps than it ought to take. Including the step of having to look this up, because you’d never intuitively figure this out on your own.
Wouldn’t that simply create a bitmap circle, though? The advantage of shapes in Photoshop is that they are vectors.
Select circle -> save selection as path. There’s your vector. I’d, however, use some vector app for vector graphics, independent of the OS I’m using.
Well it’s still a good idea to have shapes saved as vectors in a bitmap program. So resizing doesn’t affect the shape.
Vectors in a bitmap program
I just let this stand on it’s own.
In case you don’t understand why your post needs to stand on it’s own, vectors in bitmap program are vectors until exported as bitmaps. They are very useful.
All vectors will be bitmaps when displayed on a screen.
Unintuitive.
I heard of photoshop when I was 13 and I installed a pirated version, just started clicking around and I always found what I wanted in a minute.
10 Years later, I switch 100% to Linux, I have to do some light design work, I open gimp - I CLICK AROUND FOR HALF AN HOUR FOR SOMETHING SIMPLE - give up and google it, it gives me a reply like yours “just go to a completely unrelated menu to conjure a hack out of your ass that barely resembles what you originally intended to do”
If you want something intuitive, use Paint or pen and paper.
that’s dumb. you should just draw on the wall of the cave
Try krita it has such things :D
yeah. actualy is there anything in gimp you can’t do in krita?
Laugh at the absolutely terrible name?
Cry about a missing shape tool?
Have you tried photopea?
Yeah, but it runs in a browser, chokes on larger projects and Ivan is an asshole.
I looked up what a “shape tool” is supposed to do. How about using better tools for this, like Inkscape, export as pixel file (png or whatever), and import it into GIMP?
GIMP needs a glow up. It looks like what it is, but for a program looking for artists and designers to switch - you’re not going to get it by looking like the Temu photoshop.
lol ; silley
Wrong tool for the job anyway.
GIMP and photoshop have always been photo editing tools first and foremost, which means they are meant for working with bitmap graphics, not vector.
Want to work with vector graphics? Use Inkscape.
Would you look at that: Inkscape already has very robust shape tools
Yeah but sometimes you want a circle in a bitmap.
You’re not wrong. But also, people would love shape tools in GIMP. It still feels like a really weird thing to exclude.
Nonono, you got it all wrong. Photoshop is the one and only graphics tool, just as Word is the tool for anything text. Like layout - and wherever Word fails layouting you use Photoshop for the job. It has even more different fonts and u can use them all in one document!! Every single letter a different color and a different filter. Everything else is just not proffesional. Hahah. lolrotfl. Can your Gump do that? Thought so!
Except Word has a shape tool.
Murdered in just 6 words
GIMP and photoshop have always been photo editing tools first and foremost
I mean, GIMP literally means “General Image Manipulation Program”.
Excusing the lack of proper shape drawing tools as “it’s a task for vector software” while at the same time having things like the ability to define vector masks is complete nonsense.
drawing shapes is a very much general use. 90% of the times I only open an image editor to crop and annotate an image, with shapes like boxes circles arrows. I’m not drawing in it and I highly doubt that drawing on a computer is a “general” thing.
I mean, GIMP literally means “General Image Manipulation Program”.
… It stands for GNU Image Manipulation Program and has done for 28 years now.
Where do you get that idea from? Tht G stands for GNU
But what does the G in GNU stand for?
GIMP’s not Unix
gTerry Pratchett, I think.
They could call it SIMP, for specialized image manipulation program.
It means GNU Image Manipulation Program.
That’s not an valid excuse.
Shape tools is a universal basic tool for any software that handle some sort of image creation or addition.
Photo editing, general image editing, painting software, layout design, vector design, PDF editor, all of them have one. Microsoft Paint, Clip Studio Paint, Krita, Photoshop, Photopea, Pixelmator, Affinity Photo, all of them have shape tools.
Heck, even Microsoft Excel and Word even have one.
That moment when MS Paint is more advanced than GIMP, lol.
GIMP has shape tools like MS Paint does.
Also, why not use those programs you listed instead, if GIMP isn’t getting the job done.
Why does a shape tool have to mean vectors are involved?
Why can’t I just draw some bitmaps in different shapes?
Like krita does?
Maybe? The person I was responding to was making a direct comparison that GIMP is bitmap only and insinuated that shapes are only vectors.
Because GIMP already can make bitmap shapes
For illustration work, having good support for both vector and bitmap elements is pretty damn convenient. For example, in comics, you draw the comics themselves in bitmap layers, while panels and speech bubbles go in vector layers. Having the ability to edit the speech bubbles easily is pretty neat.
(Optimally inking/outlines would be vectors too, but most people prefer to do that with bitmap tools anyway, or vectorise later.)
Krita actually does these pretty solidly - vector tools are there and they’re pretty easy to use. In GIMP 2, the vector path support actually is there and the editable texts are actually pretty great, but it has the air of “power user trick, for those in the know” rather than something people actually discover easily. You also need to update the vector strokes manually. (Haven’t tried GIMP 3 yet.) The fact that people still assume you can’t do this stuff really says it all.
This comment has such a “Wanted to do X for a laugh? We had a tool for that, it’s called Y” energy, and I think that’s hilarious.
I use Paint.net usually and there are plugins people make that you can install. Does GIMP not have that?
It does
I use GIMP only for the simple pixel stuff, and I hope they did not make basic operations even more complicated. I always struggle to get some basic things done just because there are myriads of for me useless and arcane settings.
Man there’s a lot of really stupid shit in here.
Yes having a simple to use shape tool is nice. And it’s on the roadmap so no, it doesn’t go against some weird vaguely defined “core value” of gimp.
Also, the stupid name chosen by mid-1990s edgelords trying to be funny is still stupid.
The GNU Image Manipulation Program is edgy to you?
Its on the roadmap. AFAIK it requires vector layers before it can be worked on.
GIMP (at least in v2) does have a vector path tool and stores the paths with the image! Thing is, they kind of work like selections and you have to explicitly stroke the paths on bitmap layers. It’s a bit more complicated than necessary and not easy to grasp at first.
I think I’m just not familiar enough with image manipulation software, but GIMP feels way too complex to even get started with…
I use and like Gimp, but I feel the same about inkscape. I hate svg images now because of it.
just start trying to do sonething with it and you’ll get used to it
