• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I use GIMP only for the simple pixel stuff, and I hope they did not make basic operations even more complicated. I always struggle to get some basic things done just because there are myriads of for me useless and arcane settings.

  • macniel@feddit.org
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    4 months ago

    It’s so tiring…

    Use the circle selection tool, mark an area, fill it with a solid colour/gradient/texture or morph it further or stroke the path to create a hollow circle

    So many options that amount to more than just a shape tool.

    • missingno@fedia.io
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      4 months ago

      That’s several more steps than it ought to take. Including the step of having to look this up, because you’d never intuitively figure this out on your own.

    • HelloRoot@lemy.lolEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Unintuitive.

      I heard of photoshop when I was 13 and I installed a pirated version, just started clicking around and I always found what I wanted in a minute.

      10 Years later, I switch 100% to Linux, I have to do some light design work, I open gimp - I CLICK AROUND FOR HALF AN HOUR FOR SOMETHING SIMPLE - give up and google it, it gives me a reply like yours “just go to a completely unrelated menu to conjure a hack out of your ass that barely resembles what you originally intended to do”

    • Stovetop@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Wouldn’t that simply create a bitmap circle, though? The advantage of shapes in Photoshop is that they are vectors.

      • B-TR3E@feddit.org
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        4 months ago

        Select circle -> save selection as path. There’s your vector. I’d, however, use some vector app for vector graphics, independent of the OS I’m using.

        • maxprime@lemmy.ml
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          4 months ago

          Well it’s still a good idea to have shapes saved as vectors in a bitmap program. So resizing doesn’t affect the shape.

            • Oniononon@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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              4 months ago

              In case you don’t understand why your post needs to stand on it’s own, vectors in bitmap program are vectors until exported as bitmaps. They are very useful.

    • Oniononon@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Same energy as “so tired of idiots who want right click>new file on gnome, are you too stupid to open the terminal, cd 20 times and use the shittiest text editor ever to create a new file and save it and then open nautilus and navigate to the same directory, or something?”

      Comparable to driving from washington to argentina instead of taking a plane (for those who don’t know, there are no roads connecting north to south america). This is literally the attitude why there will never be year of the linux.

      • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
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        4 months ago

        Spoiler: most people don’t care about “year of the linux desktop”. Linux works for me and those losers on windows be damned. Why should we cater to them? Especially since they won’t put any effort into learning linux.

        • Oniononon@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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          4 months ago

          More users = more support for programs and hardware on linux, more open source and freedom policies rather than maximising shareholder value. Less and less troubleshooting and figuring out why your shit you really need to work doesn’t work.

          It benefits everyone, even the people who are in denial about good ux.

          I mean id you think navigating through folders in terminal and using other shitty tools to create a template file is mentally stimulating or difficult task and teaches anything about linux other than that linux is unfinished and has massive oversights, you are not as clever as you think you are.

        • Julian@lemm.eeEnglish
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          4 months ago

          I wouldn’t have switched personally if Linux ui was still shit. I put the effort into learning because the initial experience was good enough to warrent delving deeper into it.

    • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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      4 months ago

      So many options that amount to more than just a shape tool.

      If I wanted to learn some arcane bullshit to draw a circle Id just learn C++.

  • Julian@lemm.eeEnglish
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    4 months ago

    Man there’s a lot of really stupid shit in here.

    Yes having a simple to use shape tool is nice. And it’s on the roadmap so no, it doesn’t go against some weird vaguely defined “core value” of gimp.

  • Rose@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    GIMP (at least in v2) does have a vector path tool and stores the paths with the image! Thing is, they kind of work like selections and you have to explicitly stroke the paths on bitmap layers. It’s a bit more complicated than necessary and not easy to grasp at first.

  • 4uffin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 months ago

    I think I’m just not familiar enough with image manipulation software, but GIMP feels way too complex to even get started with…

  • TwoCupsofSugar@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    i just want pressure sensitivity that actually works, GIMP used to be my go to for art stuff in the past, its a shame to see that it hasn’t really improved much over the past decade. I’ve switched completely to Krita, better overall software

    • Foxfire@pawb.socialEnglish
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      4 months ago

      I use Krita for everything, I love it so much. I also won’t act like it’s perfect either, despite it being my most used software by a landslide. Personally my biggest desire now is improved workflow for text editing (e.g. editing text directly on the canvas, being able to box and justify text, vector pathing for text so you can make it bend or wave). From what I understand it is something that is being worked on, and I will be even more indebted to the wonderful folks at KDE once further progress is made on that front.

    • Oniononon@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Photoshop and gimp are both bad painting software since they are not meant for that. They just do it in a pinch. Used to main ps until I bought clip studio and discovered how damn good it is. Then I went to linux and discovered how damn good krita is.

    • net00@lemm.eeEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I’ve seen this exact image in a thread before and the circlejerk assured everyone this didn’t happen

    • AugustWest@lemm.eeEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Oh so this is not a photoediting class I thought. So I launched Krita. And everyone laughed when they realized Photoshop was the wrong tool for the job.

      We had icecream.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I looked up what a “shape tool” is supposed to do. How about using better tools for this, like Inkscape, export as pixel file (png or whatever), and import it into GIMP?

    • m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      GIMP and photoshop have always been photo editing tools first and foremost

      I mean, GIMP literally means “General Image Manipulation Program”.

      Excusing the lack of proper shape drawing tools as “it’s a task for vector software” while at the same time having things like the ability to define vector masks is complete nonsense.

    • Rose@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      For illustration work, having good support for both vector and bitmap elements is pretty damn convenient. For example, in comics, you draw the comics themselves in bitmap layers, while panels and speech bubbles go in vector layers. Having the ability to edit the speech bubbles easily is pretty neat.

      (Optimally inking/outlines would be vectors too, but most people prefer to do that with bitmap tools anyway, or vectorise later.)

      Krita actually does these pretty solidly - vector tools are there and they’re pretty easy to use. In GIMP 2, the vector path support actually is there and the editable texts are actually pretty great, but it has the air of “power user trick, for those in the know” rather than something people actually discover easily. You also need to update the vector strokes manually. (Haven’t tried GIMP 3 yet.) The fact that people still assume you can’t do this stuff really says it all.

    • B-TR3E@feddit.org
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      4 months ago

      Nonono, you got it all wrong. Photoshop is the one and only graphics tool, just as Word is the tool for anything text. Like layout - and wherever Word fails layouting you use Photoshop for the job. It has even more different fonts and u can use them all in one document!! Every single letter a different color and a different filter. Everything else is just not proffesional. Hahah. lolrotfl. Can your Gump do that? Thought so!

    • rustydrd@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      This comment has such a “Wanted to do X for a laugh? We had a tool for that, it’s called Y” energy, and I think that’s hilarious.

    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      You’re not wrong. But also, people would love shape tools in GIMP. It still feels like a really weird thing to exclude.

    • nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip
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      4 months ago

      That’s not an valid excuse.

      Shape tools is a universal basic tool for any software that handle some sort of image creation or addition.

      Photo editing, general image editing, painting software, layout design, vector design, PDF editor, all of them have one. Microsoft Paint, Clip Studio Paint, Krita, Photoshop, Photopea, Pixelmator, Affinity Photo, all of them have shape tools.

      Heck, even Microsoft Excel and Word even have one.

    • Kushan@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Why does a shape tool have to mean vectors are involved?

      Why can’t I just draw some bitmaps in different shapes?