Locking. The comment section is a perfect summary of why so many people don’t want to be associated with Linux users. I should’ve removed the post outright because it is inflammatory, reactionary, and invites toxicity – evidenced by the fact that the downvotes on dissenting comments are largely made by the same users. I wonder if a pattern might emerge.
There is a discussion to be had about the topic… but it went to exchanging insults and downvoting out of disagreement.
Many are dependent on software suites that only work decently on Windows or Mac. Switching to Linux means they might have to have up on those applications. And if some alternative software exist, it’s a huge gamble to hope they support your existing workflow.
People also tend to work with other people. Whatever alternative software you might pick must also support your collaborative workflow as well.
And let us not kid ourselves, Linux is quite fragile. It’s expected that something will break at some point and you’re forced to find a solution online. Often the solution involves finding a configuration file somewhere, enter a string of characters and pray it works.
Last time I had to enter some config file was a week ago because of some issues with my keyboard.
I’m a nerd, so I’m fine with doing it. Overall I prefer the flexibilities Linux offers. But most people aren’t nerds. They don’t want to open a terminal and write strange incantations.
This is only a couple posts away from that other post about this topic. Lol.
And to come full circle, I just left comment complaining about bazzite making it more difficult than it needs to be to format a flash drive.
Edit; don’t know who I pissed off, but y’all are the people we’re talking about.
You’re too delulu to realise that you and your stupid-ass comment are the problem. What does this even have to do with OP?
What kept me from swapping longer than anything else was spite for the shitty linux community.
And they’re straignt up delusional about the amount of software that works on Linux. There is no FOSS equivalent to Wilcom, for example. It’s like how they claim GIMP is the same as Photoshop, but I’ve used both and GIMP is absolute ass in comparison.
please please no, i don’t want a huge wave of normies infiltrating our space.
Don’t worry, the normies don’t want to infiltrate your space either
man this is hard to not agree with
but gosh i have to disagree, the eternal summer has been upon us for 30 years. they deserve better
Satisfying 😂
the largest barrier to linux is its user base
Dont interact with it then. There are manuals.
Replying to that with an “RTFM” response has to be some kind of meta-joke.
It was meant to be, seems people were unhappy with it 😅
Outdated and poorly written so a normal user can’t do shit, but yeah, there are manuals and documentation.
Damn, this is pure bullshit
I think with Linux and the Fediverse there is the same problem. “Just use Linux” okay then, which one? “Use Lemmy” “Use Mastodon” okay then, what instance?
Linux Mint, lemmings.world, mastodon.social. I might be slightly biased with the Lemmy instance.
Mastodon social is a bit big tbh. Might be better recommending a smaller instance
The shift to Linux is a tough one, and it just cannot happen all at once. The longer you spend in a workflow, the longer it takes to change it. If we offer our support and kindness to people when they struggle with Windows, it lends more credibility when we recommend Linux. Plus, I’m not really going to complain about another opportunity to call out when Microsoft does more dumb shit.
This right here is why you don’t have a romantic partner
I’d treat my boss like that but I still need a job
What a stupid meme
And that’s why they don’t switch to Linux.
Yeah, this kind of stuff makes me not want to admit to using Linux in public. Let’s not mistake hating Windows for a personality.
I don’t switch to linux because I need to use “breakout rooms” in Teams on a daily basis and they disabled that for linux.
that’s weird. does that not work in the browser either?
I don’t think it ever worked in the browser. Like all office apps, the browser version is limited
Jeez…microsoft should just explode atp
WTF?
I mean, my work PC is managed by the company and thus a Windows device, but why disable that feature? Yes, it somewhat makes sense if you see it like “we don’t want other OS to have all features to make costumers less likely to switch” BUT Teams on Mac has some unique features that haven’t been ported to windows and are still exclusively available on Mac, so…?!
They stopped supporting Teams on Linux entirely. Linux users are supposed to run Teams in a browser and the browser version lacks certain features, even things like custom background images; you can only use the ones provided by Microsoft.
I use an unofficial client, which seems to be based on the old official one. That gives me most of the functionality back.
Which client is that and where can I find it?
https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux
It’s also on Flathub and the AUR. And the Snap store, if you use that for some reason.
I’m talking about after they refuse to help themselves. They want their learned helplessness and Microsoft stockholm syndrome validated, and fuck that!
I want Omnissa (VMWare) Horizon Client to support Wayland. Until then, while I have to boot into Windows for one thing, I might as well boot into Windows for everything.
Maybe next year will be the year of the Linux Desktop.
I’d rather use x11 than windows. But you do you.
Yeah, my monitors didn’t work under Ubuntu X11. At least on PopOS, that just worked.
Why are people ratioing this purely subjective take? I’ve had builds that didn’t get along with various peripherals. That’s like a super common refrain from people with a great many distros.
Heck, that can even happen with Windows.
My Logitech F710 never worked right with Windows because the driver’s power saving feature doesn’t mesh well with Windows 10’s power saving feature, causing dropped inputs. No such problems under Linux.
Not everything works everywhere. People are used to how things don’t work with Windows and learning how things don’t work differently with a Linux distro is annoying because you learn by running into problems. If you have people to switch over and have a good time you have to help than through this.
I have so many questions, but it’s ok if you dont want or can’t answer them. why doesn’t omnissa work in wayland? X11-only apps are still supposed to work (because of a compatibility layer xwayland), and I take advantage of that all the time with multiple apps. and why don’t your monitors work? hdmi/dp/dvi are all very basic things that should just work, regardless of using X11 or not
The app didn’t seem to respect the environment variable for X11 I tried to set for that one app.
I have an odd monitor configuration, one 2k high refresh rate, HDR monitor in the center, 1080p monitors to the left, right, and above. The right is also a higher refresh rate.
I could get it to work in Ubuntu… inconsistently. Sometimes I’d log in and have one 640x480 monitor in the center. PopOS just worked.
Ok, but my point is that, if you want them to switch to Linux and because you like it and seem to hate Windows, I think that’s a reasonable assumption, treating them poorly will not make that better for anyone. They won’t want to put forth the effort and as a primarily Windows user and having tried Linux on many occasions, I can say it can be a daunting task especially when you need to use the command line. In the past I can honestly say that I have had a lot of help from very knowledgeable and friendly Linux users. But please don’t deny that Linux users aren’t just a little bit elitist.
In fact I can already picture the current Linux community complaining about the state of Linux if it were to skyrocket in popularity. Suddenly it would be like, all these stupid Windows users coming to Linux, ruining the experience. Companies trying to profit off of it. I liked it better when it was a small community.
Did you actually see the thing this was posted in response to? It was about scolding Linux users for even politely suggesting switching, which is the bare minimum to even begin to try to help solve the complainers’ real problem (corporate end vitrification) instead of just the symptom du jour they were complaining about at any given moment.
Don’t scold us for trying to help you and then have the utter fucking gall to try to police our tone instead of your own!
I don’t want them to switch. I don’t care if you use windows or not. It’s you or them who have to suffer windows not me. Why should I care? Switch to linux or don’t. Means nothing to me.
Insufferable
I know, right? People who wallow in their problems instead of working to solve them are insufferable, and people who scold us for trying to help are even worse!
Proposing a “solution” that was never a possibility in the first place isn’t helping either.
Nah, they don’t switch cause they are too lazy to learn something new. They find something about linux to complain about so they can go “see, they are all jerks and now I won’t switch”
They never would have put in the effort, toxic community or not.
For all companies and corpos to switch to Linux, it needs to become a new Windows, because the core difference between proprietary and free software, in my opinion, is not the way it is distributed but the way it is developped and used. It is “we’ll do everything for you in a centralised manner and you’ll just passively consume it” vs. “everyone is a creator, creating new stuff on their own in a decentralised manner out of the will for self-actualisation” philosophy. So I think truely free software isn’t compatible with centralised and uncreative type of production which most companies are. Basically DIY vs. commercial support.
