Let’s go for a walk in the park - they just cleaned the algae tanks!
Gooooood Morning Night City!
Algae in water doesn’t burn like trees
Checkmate commies !
It sounded cool a couple of years ago, but it was first installed in 2021 and I’m yet to hear of it really going anywhere.
homeless people find sitting in the shade of trees to be comfortable, and the city whole point of urban design is to make them uncomfortable and to suffer
Does this count too?
I already posted this on !balconygardening@slrpnk.net. .
I’m purposefully growing duckweed on my balcony.
I’m doing !hydroponics@slrpnk.net, and by doing that, I have lots of waste water with still good fertilizer in it.Duckweed is one of the fastest growing, nutrient densest and least demanding plant out there, and you can just scoop it out with a strainer.
It’s exponentially growing and if you don’t wanna eat it, it makes great organic fertiliser or animal feed with lots of protein and micronutients!
I had the same reaction until I read this.
TL;DR: it’s 10-50x more efficient at cleaning the air and actually generates both electricity and fertiliser.
Yes, it would be better to just get rid of all the cars generating the pollution in the first place and putting in some more trees, but there are clear advantages to this.
How long does it take to break even from the pollution and electricity spent to make and install these?
I appreciate Rebecca Watson’s opinion. Watched the 6min video, now convinced 👍
Also learned a new term: kneejerk cynicism
It provides fertilizer but needs “some food”.
How much food and what is it?
Typically for aquariums you have to feed these things fertilizer so it seems odd
It’s just some circle of life stuff, fertilizer, carbon dioxide, light in, The algae produces more algae. It loads up on a bunch of carbon, some of the bloom dies off, by removing it, you take the carbon with it along with some of the fertilizer components. You add a little more fertilizer in and the algae blooms more and sucks up more carbon dioxide.
How much food and what is it?
…Did we mention it doubles as a convenient dumping ground for mob snitches?
It’s not an either/or thing, the tank in the picture is literally sitting under a tree
Why is this in self hosted?
in case you want to self-host your own algae, I guess
Can I combine this with my water-cooling setup?
Just give me a 4U tank somewhere where someone else can deal with harvesting the algae and a webcam aimed at it and I can enjoy it just fine from here. For me, selfhosting is mostly about the privacy, not principally about needing to be resistant to loss of Internet connectivity or the like.
I have seen a few guides on growing your own algae including from CodySlab.
It has a USB port.
Come on, you know there’s someone out there trying to work out how to selfhost one of these.
I have a birth bath I don’t ever replace the water in. Its like a shrub to me.
birth bath
Uhhhhhh you should probably at least drain out the placenta fluid…
No, it’s essential to the flavor.
You should look up “Walstad planted tank”. An all plants aquarium you don’t ever have to mess with (except to trim if you want to)
I’ve been doing these for years… they don’t work as intended for more than a year or two, and then become pretty unstable. Even the lady who created it went back to low-maintenance (as opposed to zero input) systems after a few years. Still with the dirt and all but not without water movement and stuff.
Awesome! yeah, there’s a variant where you can seal the jar, but for the most part exactly what you said is the norm. I’ve had mine for roughly 5 years now, but I added shrimp and trim it back about once a month or so . I don’t even feed the tank more than a few times a week.
-
Wrong community, maybe? Lol
-
iirc, algae are better oxygen producers per units of mass and volume, so a tank full of algae might actually be better than a tree. One issue though is that trees can grow on open ground, while algae require a tank to be built, most likely negating the economic benefits. Also, trees are more aesthetically pleasing.
What? You don’t like future jelly tree?
-
I like how everyone is acting like it is normal to have this in self hosted
I love this about lemmy.
Like someone stumbling into the wrong house and still being welcomed.
It’s a lot more informal and relaxed than on the piss page of the Internet.
How’s my dog supposed to piss on that
I don’t think your dog will see that as problematic.
Because there’s no serious answers being given even though there are at least 2:
- trees have roots, roots ruin any nearby human infrastructure. You’ll note this says “in urban environments” and that there are trees nearby, so this is probably the big reason
- trees need maintenance, which costs money. this is a stupid reason imo, but it’s one nonetheless
- algae is cool, ok?
Don’t forget pollen and seeds.
Oh yeah
I’m one of those elites who don’t have allergies so I tend to forget 😎😎😎
>:(
Let’s tie him up and sneeze on him.
Plus pollen means having to pay to clean it off.
Bees need pollen. We need bees and you can self host them.
trees dont ruin ANY human infrastructure. But the usual urban infrastructure isnt well thought out enough to exist around trees. But smarter urbanism is possible and in fact does exist.
trees dont ruin ANY human infrastructure
I think you mean all, as this reads more like “nuh uh, trees don’t ruin anything”
But smarter urbanism is possible and in fact does exist.
And those are not the norm, so for places that don’t plan to just destroy what’s already there and start anew, this is an option
People ruin nature’s infrastructure
deleted by creator
Algae is also more efficient per cubic meter, if I understand correctly.
Not just more efficient, vastly more efficient. Algae is 10-50 times faster at processing CO² than trees are. Some algae can be up to 400x as efficient.
It’s just not as “nice” to look at, we usually associate algae with growth in unsafe bodies of water like bogs, etc. versus a nice clean pool or even a maintained pond.
On the other hand, algae do not produce shade, not sure if it filters atmospheric pollutants, and trees provide all sort of other services to the local ecosystem.
Maybe this invention can be used on places where trees cannot lives, but I’d still take a city with trees over a city full of green tanks.
Maybe this invention can be used on places where trees cannot lives, but I’d still take a city with trees over a city full of green tanks.
These in the spots where trees once stood but were too destructive & trees everywhere else imo. Cool tech future AND trees, plus these are benches too it looks like
plus these are benches too it looks like
This part is the most surprising. For something meant to go in urban areas, where’s the hostile architecture? No railings between seats? No spikes?
That sounds like it needs its own community. “Hostile Architecture” I love it.
Edit: I googled the term and think it could be a sub. https://www.re-thinkingthefuture.com/designing-for-typologies/hostile-architecture-anti-homeless-architecture/
(Sorry, you made me think of this article)
“let’s uproot all these trees and invade this space. and when the roots of the few remaining trees do what they are supposed to do, let’s blame them for ‘ruining’ human infrastructure!”
Bet that algae box will need maintenance too :-)
Every 6 months half of it gets removed, to use as fertiliser, and it is refilled with tap water and some feed.
How do I self host these? I tried
docker run liquidtreesit didn’t workThey’re not stupid; its not in docker. Check apt.
Try
docker run liquidtrees:micro-algaeI think there’s an alpine build too if your system has low oxygen levels
Instructions unclear, installed Liquid Swords.
Not to worry, just make sure to change guid and puid to 1000 then restart the container
git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/liquidtrees.git && cd liquidtrees && makepkg
or
add https://repo.30p87.de/private/archlinux as a repo, and sudo pacman -Sy liquidtrees. Then sudo systemctl enable --now liquidtreesJust tried this and my DE got replaced with Sway and now there’s algae oozing out of my keyboard
Thats not a bug, thats intended behavior. Issue closed
Oh yeah, I put sway in depends for my own builds so I ensure it’s installed for new arch installs, oops
Practical answer, fits in places trees may not. Pessimistic answer, fits in some guys cyberpunk ass vision for what he wants his office block to look like.
Nothing is wrong with trees, but the microalgae CO2 capture rate is 50x higher````` .
I’m gonna bet that you’re going to get a much-more-economical return there by powdering whatever iron is used in building that thing and then dumping said iron powder into the ocean at an appropriate point.
This technique is controversial because there is limited understanding of its complete effects on the marine ecosystem,[5] including side effects and possibly large deviations from expected behavior. Such effects potentially include release of nitrogen oxides,[6] and disruption of the ocean’s nutrient balance.[1] Controversy remains over the effectiveness of atmospheric CO2 sequestration and ecological effects.
Geoengineering is bullshit proposed by funding from fossil fuel companies so they can continue to pollute.
The solution is simple: make it illegal to pollute. Fine the companies responsible for their past contributions to the climate catastrophe out of existence.
Their lifetime is also much shorter. Guess where all that CO2 goes, when they die ^^
Fertilizer
I have a solution. More algae.
This is the solution. You drain it and sequester the carbon.
Based and algae-pilled
Fake and algae
Wherever you put it?
