I hate when people say that they’ll only move when it has 100% support

People who say ‘cant wait for steamOS to come out so that I can move to it’ is also very similar

They never will try Linux, even if what they want comes true

They won’t do it, whether they just fear change or think it’ll break stuff or they can’t bother

And I’m not going to lie, I don’t hate them or debate with them for it, I just hate the bold lies they tell just to get with the crowd

“Fuck you Microsoft, I’m moving to Linux” says the individual that would never move if they haven’t already

Frankly, I probably wouldn’t move either if Windows didn’t permanently break my ethernet and WiFi drivers, and reinstalling windows wasn’t harder than installing Linux, fucking hell

Either way, these people kick up hype for a Linux that will be so much bigger but they never arrive

Maybe they will, due in fucking 2028 or something when they invent a really easy way to use built in Linux tools to move your files from NTFS to Linux and then when you launch steam you have a perfect library of Linux compatible games that are as good or better than windows

And don’t lie, even now with 80% compatibility it feels more like 60%, whether because it depends on the system one runs or because the performance drops just make it not worth it…

At least don’t lie that you’ll move to Linux at a goal post that you’ll just move whenever you get close, maybe say that you’ll move to Linux when you finally get a new pc with a new disk or something?

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    Yeah, I also don’t like such general laziness. It’s also not just limited to switching to Linux, it’s kind of the same with switching to anything that’s better but slightly(!) more inconvenient than what you’re used to. Well, you can’t make or be part of some progress unless you’re willing to sometimes get off your comfy couch and do something you’ve never done before. Like switching to Linux. Like stopping eating meat. Like stopping supporting certain evil companies. Like going to vote for a non-retarded option. Like voting with your wallet for the products you use/buy and also NOT use/buy. If everyone would do it, the world would be a different (better) place. But still too few are doing it. Because it’s slightly less convenient. And that would be so damn hard to change. Oh man would that be hard. Not.

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      I actually think stopping eating meat is easier than switching to Linux, but that matters more on ones psyche and personality

      You can always make great vegetarian meals, and limit meat to only eating in restaurants, eating with friends and family or just as a way to reward yourself

      Linux is somewhat of an on/off situation, but once you’re done switching it’s so much more easier

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    You ever seen this XKCD about “today’s 10,000?”

    Your rant reminds me of that because I think you’ve got this idea in your head that everyone in life is at the same point in their journey as you are now. Linux has been on the edge of my mind for awhile but I’m a really busy working person and learning a new operating system seems daunting when you don’t have the experience.

    Then I bought a Steamdeck last year and a switch flipped in my head; I was like hey this gaming on Linux and it looks like it is actually doable. Then a few weeks back a misfortune resulted in Windows getting nuked on my gaming PC and I had some free time so installed Linux for the first time and started trying to figure stuff out.

    My point is that there are people who are truthfully interested but overwhelmed with life or it’s just not as high a priority to them so it hasn’t happened yet but that doesn’t mean that it won’t happen. This approach of “they would have done it by now if they were going to” just seems silly to me. People have lives and we are all at different places in our journey.

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    In my experience linux runs every game I want and has done it with less issues, crashes and tinkering than it was on windows 11. I constantly see posts from windows users about how some game doesn’t work or crashes while it runs fine on both deck and pc. Only games not working are those that are disabled by devs to scapecoat massive amount of hackers onto linux users.

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      +1,or some old games which have some creepy game engine which quite buggy.For example my cousin like to play pet horsez 2 and it was need tinkering game works only window size screen not fullscreen

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    I hate when people say that they’ll only move when it has 100% support

    Why do you give a shit what os others use?

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      Because of bandwagon effect. The more people use linux, then even more will. And itll get more support from software and hardware developers. And the world will be more free, safe, and not controlled by a big corp.

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      Frankly I started to hold Linux like it was a religion, but beyond that admission it’s not that I care about them but them constantly saying shit like so which they know they don’t actually believe in or will do

      Imagine advocating for a protest just for you to not even show up

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        I’ve been playing with linux since the mid 90s. I have it on majority of my devices, but my main is still running windows 10. Exactly because it doesn’t run everything I need 100%, nor do I enjoy spending hours trying to get things to work anymore.

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        I mean, I think protests are important but I have to work to stay out of the homeless shelter

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      There’s precisely one reason I care, to increase compatibility with linux.

      Once anticheat works perfectly on linux, I’ll completely stop caring what other people do. Everything else will come with time.

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        I also don’t really care about more people switching to Linux, except for the fact that it’s gonna force developers to make their games run on Linux.

        There’ll also be some downsides with more people using linux, like more viruses…

        In a way, I’d focus more on the fact that it would be cool if more people used Linux on phones instead of ios/Android. That could make it easier to run at one point…

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    Frankly, I probably wouldn’t move either if Windows didn’t permanently break my ethernet and WiFi drivers

    I think this might be colouring your expectations a bit, and you might be projecting your experiences on to others.

    I’ve said for years that it was gaming that was holding me back from running Linux full time. I don’t do a huge amount of gaming, but it is important to me, so for many years it was a deal breaker.

    Now, gaming is good enough, even though it’s not perfect, and I moved to linux full time around 9 months ago.

    People aren’t “lying”. They just have different priorities to you…

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      Agreed. I also moved within the last year. I did it in response to how horrible windows 11 looks though. Win 10 was bad enough id been flirting with the idea and when i saw ads built in to 11 it pushed me over the tipping point.

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    “Fuck you Microsoft, I’m moving to Linux” says the individual that would never move if they haven’t already

    I posted this in a comment somewhere on Lemmy about a month before I moved. It took me a while because I have a chronic illness, a disability, and the whole process takes a lot of sitting at my desk which is quite hard on my body.

    Not everyone’s circumstances are the same. I get the sentiment you’re trying to share but cut people some slack…

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    “I want to be able to use my expensive hardware for the reason I purchased it in the first place” seems like a pretty solid argument to me.

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      This is where I am. There are a lot of fancy features that modern graphics cards have that I want to make sure work with all my AAA titles. I have a Linux laptop for near everything that isn’t a game.

      I know there’s a lot of people on Lemmy that feel differently, but I am a bit of a bleeding edge graphics whore. I like my raytracing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          Not sure what the situation is on the NVIDIA side, but Mesa’s raytracing performance is… lacking. Don’t get me wrong; it’s amazing that it works as well as it does, but even with a high-end card it’s not the best experience. I don’t personally care much about RT, but if I were more into it I would probably consider setting up a Windows dual-boot.

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            Ah, I see. My understanding is that AMD’s raytracing is just subpar compared to Nvidia, no matter what system you’re using, so I dunno what positive performance changes you’d see either way.

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            Not sure what the situation is on the NVIDIA side

            Nvidia’s proprietary Linux drivers are effectively equal to their Windows drivers

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    As a Linux user, this post is exhausting.

    SteamOS is exciting. Many people had their first proper experience of using Linux with the steamdeck and many of those thoroughly enjoy the experience. I imagine its a great comfort to know that your OS is being supported by the same people who gave you such a great experience in the past.

    I’m sure theres a tiny fraction of people who absolutely are just moving the goalpost over and over, but most people just want something that works for them with minimal friction. SteamOS will do that, and it’ll be familiar.

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    I can’t believe I bought a windows license in July, back when I built my new PC - was planning to use Windows for games exclusively and Linux for everything else.

    Haven’t booted into Windows since at least November, it’s a great feeling. Every game I play (including new releases) runs fine on Linux.

    What a time to be alive!

    (note: the only game I can’t play is Valorant, but that’s the same on Windows, too, as it requires secure boot)

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    I think you put too much weight on everything, including your opinion. I am not trying to be insulting, just realistic.

    I can equally say that I hate how so many people say, “just switch to Linux, its easy and does everything.” Neither of those is the case because it doesn’t factor in the learning curve nor does Linux do everything.

    So if you want more Linux users, focus more on being helpful. Ask what their specific concerns are, or what apps they must have vs would be nice to have. Point people to distros that would fit their use case (it’s mind boggling as a non Linux user to just look up what distro to get). Then point them towards how to find answers to their questions and troubleshooting steps.

    Nuture the seeds you plant and they will grow. Yelling at them that they aren’t growing isn’t going to help.

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      But immediately dismissing people’s problems is the Linux way. Linux is perfect, I had no issues with it, so if you have any issues you’re simply wrong!

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    “it has to run every single piece of windows software or else its useless”

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    I understand what you’re saying and I guess it’s true that some people are just finding excuses.

    But I think you also lack some empathy towards everyone ´s user’s case.

    Personnaly, switching fully to Linux was pretty easy as 99% of my gaming is being done on Playstation.

    On my playstation 5 I can know for sure that I can play every game I fancy.

    Why am I gaming on consoles? Mostly because it involves no tinkering.

    So, despite having gotten rid of Windows a while ago, I would easily give up if I had to tinker to get a game running.

    I know that gaming on Linux as never been so easy, but gaming on PC (windows or linux) looks already too difficult for some people with all the requirements.

    I might jump to a Linux gaming rig in the future, but I can also understand why some people are choosing an easy path.

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    Im ngl, I feel like its posts like these that make people dislike Linux users. Expecting every game that you own to run perfectly isn’t some insane requirement, its totally reasonable lol. I get that its kinda frustrating people won’t ever switch, but lets be real, the only way Linux is actually going to gain new users is by having it come pre-installed on devices. Look at the increased Linux use because it’s the default OS on the steamdeck. It just needs to be the default on more devices, and be solid enough that people don’t even notice they’re not on Windows. The amount of people who will actually go out of there way to switch their OS is so negligible it may as well not even count. So who cares about these people who will never switch, because they probably won’t matter much in the end anyway.

    –And I say this as someone who has been on Linux full time for a little over a year now.

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      Lol, most games I own don’t run on windows without substantial tweaks and compatibility patches. Even then often games are buggy.

      A game with texture issues on windows is badly made, a game with texture issues on linux is a game that doesn’t run properly on linux /shrug

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      it is insane, because it doesn’t even fucking apply to any version of windows, it’s bog standard for older windows games to just shit themselves in various ways.

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    I refuse to let gaming preferences dictate my choice of operating system. I choose my OS first—Linux—because I demand full ownership of my computing environment. If an entity can extract data without your knowledge or control updates, shutdowns, or reboots against your will, they own your machine—not you. With Linux, I own my system entirely. I decide when updates happen, I control what data—if any—leaves my computer, and nothing happens without my explicit consent. My computer works for me, not someone else.

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    If it doesnt work on Linux I aint buying. Fucking manchilds without self respect.

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      If it don’t work on linux cause it was made for windows, fine. Console software doesn’t run on any os natively for example and I aint mad. If it is following the trend of “it works on linux but we ticked a box on our anticheat so it doesn’t” then I am a bit upset.