Assuming that in the future most jobs will be replaced by artificial intelligence or other advanced systems, is it (in your opinion) highly likely that the powerful figures of this world would want to commit genocide against a large part of the world’s population, or would we be dealing with true philanthropists?
Removing “Useless eaters” was part of Hitlers final solution.
MAGA removing every social net is the plan for this
Yes. Eiliminating SNAP and healthcare benefits for the lower caste populations is a good slow first step.
well given people and positions of power and genocide and the way they talk. I think the possibility is not a remote one.
I believe it’s already happening, but it’s not as straightforward as people imagined it’d be.
Like for example, the healthcare costs. I think that’s a filter to see who can survive by paying the absurd amounts. Therefore, people will die if they can’t.
Recruit people for the military, send them off into battles, eh a few hundred or a thousand die - more filtering.
Mishandling pandemics and ignoring solemn advice in how to handle them, 350k people died, what do you say President? “It is what it is” just more filtering.
So my point is, is people need to drop these fantasies of countries who actively plan to wipe out populations by sheer force and throwing bombs around.
It’s already happening because we’re dealing with con artists and cunning megalomaniacs.
Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but wasn’t that something that german eugenics guy said in the Epstien emails? About how making it too expensive to have children was a “kinder” form of population control?
Historically, no one has ever needed a reason to start a genocide.
You don’t need to actively kill people off unless you’re in a rush. Just let climate change render parts of the world uninhabitable while enforcing strict border control, and make sure your population don’t have access to decent healthcare and vaccinations so that prevmtable diseases reduce the local numbers.
If we’re talking about the US, then yes. 100%. It’s already underway.
The chances of a true philanthropist beating out the psychopaths currently at the top of the chain, is basically nil. They will always fight dirtier.
You need to ensure a government can exert power over the largest organisations in its country. If that ever becomes an issue, the organisation might start behaving as a de facto government of its own and start treating the actual government as a vassal.
Basically we need to kick corporatist politicians out of our governments before they finish rolling out the red carpet for the end of democracy, and start chopping up and/or nationalising these proto-megacorps. If only a few control the tools that put us all out of work, we’re not getting anything close to utopia.
We have eliminated a lot of jobs, and we do have large unemployment, and we do have a lot of bullshit jobs where nothing really gets done.
WW3 is also looking disturbingly feasible.
I’m not sure its a coincidence.
I yearn for a bullshit job where nothing really gets done. I’m just so tired.
The bullshit jobs are tiring too though, after all you have to deal with a lot of bullshit.
It’s an assumption that many people will be unemployed and unemployable in other functions. So far, every big change (like the Industrial Revolution or the advent of computers in the workplace) have lead to temporary displacements, and the longer ago it happened violent side effects. But in the big picture, we have found ways to put the human resource back into the machine. Accountants were supposed to go extinct with the arrival of Microsoft Excel. But their numbers have increased because they can do more useful things with their time than doing the math. The assumption may be more fear mongering. (And it’s too early to tell if you ask me.)
So I don’t think they will kill us off just yet because it isn’t entirely clear that we’re not needed. It’s also possible that so-called AI frees up people and resources that can be channeled into what are chronically underfunded professions today, like teaching or medical care. We have a tendency to think in Matrix or 1984 terms of the future when more positive outcomes exist.
Whoa, you’re a friend of DeSoto? I heard that guy’s a real pleasure to work for.
Best boss I ever had.
Whatever would make life easier/more pleasant for the trillionaires is what will happen.
That said, population is declining in the developed world anyway. People aren’t having kids, governments won’t need to do anything.
Coming soon: Soylent Green.
They are already eliminating part of the population, picking you off one by one. Although it is necessary to reduce population in general, nobody is being honest about it. You are ALL too stupid to bother with at this point.
Although it is necessary to reduce population in general
is it?
there’s perhaps too many people to live as wastefully as we do, oughtn’t we reduce the waste then?
There are absolutely too many people on the planet. It’s not about waste (although that’s part of it) as much as there are limited resources to feed everyone and make all their toys. Now it is possible to feed everyone for some time but we will be doing it while the natural world disappears. Some care, some don’t.
there are too many people, to live the way we are. and the way we are living is shameful. what insanity would prioritise Many Not Existing so A Few can keep living a shameful life?
population distribution is anti-correlated with carbon footprint: “Richest 1% account for more carbon emissions than poorest 66%”
it’s not about population, it’s so A HANDFUL of overly-privileged people can continue to waste energy on eg. nice frosty transparent dialog boxes serving them slop advertising on their smartphone as they sit on the toilet - so that MANY MANY other people end up either not existing or starving just so they can enjoy the privilege <insert applause>
I just want to add that I do recognize waste as a problem and something I personally tackle every day and try to influence others to pay attention to. There are many things that need to be done on a much larger scale but without education it would never get support. One of my favourites would be to mandate product warranties.
Blaming the 1% is popular right now but not relevant to the impact population has on our world. Mineral extraction, land clearing for food production and the raping of our oceans is not being done for the 1%.
Look at how countries like USA treat their homeless— people displaced from housing and denied a gainful living. The worse scenario is already happening to them. Nevermind Gazans being killed to turn the whole strip into a resort for these presumed philanthropists
