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He is doing the right thing if only because he is preventing a child from playing Roblox.
He’d be a hero if he gave him a copy of Minecraft (or really almost any non-F2P game) to play instead.
Luanti.
Vintage story!
Guest vlan? Smart.
Blocking 80/443 knowing all to well everything depends on those: evil.
Throttling to 56k: the original original poster just being a dick.
Took 45 minutes: Maybe find another job. You’re not good at it.
Conclusion: The sister was right. Evil incompetent dick.
Took 45 minutes: Maybe find another job. You’re not good at it.
Bit harsh.
The OpenWRT guest wifi guide isn’t a simple switch like you would get on your OEM router, but involves manually setting up a bridge device, a new firewall zone, and a new AP on one of your radios.
This can take some time if you want to do things the right way. 10 minutes to setup with no extra config steps. Add another 10 if you need to move around your firewall rules, and another 20 for random debugging.
https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/wifi/guestwifi/configuration_webinterface
Although, you set it up once. After that it’s just a checkbox.
and of course you need to tag the new network on all your switches, routers, APs… not to forget testing and integration in your monitoring system. 45 minutes is absolutely fine.
Oh true , hadn’t thought about that - I just assumed it was a single device
I have a feeling this is satire, and I’m usually the type of person to miss the joke and think it’s genuine
Even if it is satire, doesn’t mean we can do a full breakdown, especially for comedic value.
I’ll admit it. I can feel that vibe and I don’t totally disagree.
Kid should be learning social skills at a family party.
As a former kid struggling with social skills, I think that would’ve done me some good. It’s easy and convenient to fall into avoidance behaviour, but overcoddling did me no favours.
I was told overcoddling reduces resiliency. Parents always coming in to fix things without letting their kids try to solve it on their own. The kid may fail but the act of trying and figuring out why it failed helps greatly. Most parents just “don’t want to see their kids upset” though.
Take it with a grain of salt, as I don’t have any kids.
The balance to be struck is the golden zone between overcoddling and undersupporting. Kids need help getting “close enough” to figure out the rest on their own, gradually less so as their abilities expand.
In some ways, I was coddled and never learned how to do stuff. In others, I was neglected and had no idea where to begin to solve things, so I just didn’t. Neither is great.
as I don’t have any kids.
You don’t need to have kids to engage with the topic of how best to deal with them. It’s a valuable skill to have when dealing with children, whether your own or someone else’s. In fact, some parents probably should have engaged with the topic more before they squeezed one out. That shit is complicated and I wouldn’t want to just figure it out on the fly.
Same, my parents pushed me into socializing, which i HATED at the time. I know it helped.
How about running guest WLAN?
Is this the It equivalent of the unhinged LinkedIn post?
What’s this fool doing blocking only ports 80 and 443?
Hello :-)
Fuck you with your ISO 27001 compliance!
Also, fuck that kid.
This is just Uncle BOFH.
I legitimately can’t tell if this is a joke or some dude trying to do a humble brag post on LinkedIn. So many ‘look what I can do’ posts on that damn site.
LinkedIn is Poe’s Law for corporatism made into a lifestyle.
No one that serious about network security wouldn’t already have a network dedicated to untrusted devices relatives could use. Definite joke, still entertaining 😂
I’m very against Roblox. I know a kid who had a really hard time with online predators and a lot of it stated with Roblox. He’s 19 now. He and I were talking about it recently.
Parents think Roblox is like Minecraft bc of the aesthetics of the game. But, Roblox is not a game with a chat feature, it’s a chat room with some games. That’s a big difference.
They have 380 million users. Around 60% of the user base is under the age of 16. 40% is under the age of 12. That’s 152 million mostly unmonitored kids.
I’m sure Roblox has gotten better moderation during that time, but in our experience predators meet kids on Roblox and get them to exchange Discord or other contact info with them.
Discord is also a problem here, but that’s for another rant in another thread. If you are concerned about your kids and want to discuss it with me, feel free to message me.
TLDR: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY ROBLOX unless you are actively monitoring the game.
A friend’s 8 year old daughter was asking to play Roblox recently and they reached out to me since it’s in my current area of study and advised them against it due to the lack of responsibility that the corporation takes for their users.
I suggested that they introduce her to Vintage Story on a self hosted server instead. That way, they can control who has access and content.
I’m actually surprised at how many parents let their kids play Roblox unmonitored. I mean, why not let them go to the playground unmonitored instead?
Do you have any idea how many bitch about you NOT letting them go to the playground unmonitired
Vintage Story
Bro threw them straight into the deep end lmao
I encourage parents to talk to their kids about online safety but specifically come up with a plan. I’ve written this in a few comments, but u really believe it helps.
Ask them what they do if a stranger says something that makes them scared or uncomfortable. Ask them what they would do if it’s someone they know like a friend or a family member. Help them come up with a plan and identify a person who is a safe person to tell. Someone parents and kids trust, often it’s an aunt or uncle.
A parent is fine too, but at a certain age, I find kids seem to be afraid of getting in trouble or maybe just uncomfortable talking to their parents about sex, so having a 3rd party that the kids and parents trust is a good back up option.
why not let them go to the playground unmonitored instead?
That would actually be the safer option imo.
And far better for their physical and mental health.
why not let them go to the playground unmonitored instead?
It’s highly likely there is no playground.
Don’t forget the child labor aspect. https://www.theguardian.com/games/2022/jan/09/the-trouble-with-roblox-the-video-game-empire-built-on-child-labour
The whole company is gross. I forgot about this.
I’m sure Roblox has gotten better moderation during that time
Quite the opposite.
And here too! https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Roblox
The younger kid’s chat is disabled. not allowed to friend anyone.
The older kid has chat enabled, but is only allowed to friend people we vet.
Computers are in an open area, chats have been keylogged, we check occasionally.
If friends show up unanounced, or they chat where they’re not supposed to, they lose internet access long enough to regret it
When they get old enough to have friends online, we contact the parents, make sure they’re compatible politically, theologogically, just generally not extremists and their kids have some base level of dicipline and are safety minded.
We also semi-regularly play with them and set rules about the appropriateness of the games in relation to the kids ages. The younger one’s don’t get to play the violent ones.
we contact the parents, make sure they’re compatible politically, theologogically
This is insane. You call that kid’s mom to ask who she votes for and what name she uses for god, and if it doesn’t match yours, kids can’t have fun?
We have a 15 minute conversation to find out if they’re batshit crazy slur calling racist trumpeters because we dont need to subject our kids to that shit.
I find it insane that you wouldn’t take 15 minutes to get to know who your kids influencers are, but you do you.
There is a vast difference between ascertaining that someone is or is not a racist and asking about their religion and political affiliations. Do you not understand that difference?
Crazy, but it’s almost like parenting can make the environment safer!
Lemmy likes to portray Roblox the same way the 10pm news portrayed the Internet when I was in my preteens and teen years, like it was the wild west, everyone was a predator, etc. I let my kids hop on. Their friends include me, their mom (who has an account for some reason), each other, and the kids who live across the street. They like to play the platformers, and they invite me sometimes and we play them.
They’ll get older and they’ll go explore the internet the same way I did. I spent my adolescence and teen years eventually in AIM chat rooms, then forums, and thn Skyping random people, and somehow didn’t become a terrorist, didn’t get predated. I also am of the school of thought that you need to learn things on your own, rather than have no exposure to things that could potentially be bad.
Also, I did grow up with AIM and all that nonsense and I did get predators talking to me constantly, especially on AOL and Yahoo. Crazy that we had such different experiences during that age.
@Dozzi92
it’s also important to remember that different kids have different needs. Some kids can handle it fine, others may be more at risk due to past trauma or developmental delays.I do agree it’s all about teaching them safety and guiding them rather than forever sheltering them.
What’s most dangerous is completely leaving them to fend for themselves.
@rumbaYeah. I wouldn’t let my kids in Roblox personally bc of how the company has tried to ignore the problem . if parents just took time to understand it and talk to their kids about safety, it would solve many problems, not just in Roblox.
Crazy, but it’s almost like parenting can make the environment safer!
NOooooooooooo!!! We need the gubmint to impose stupid laws to protect teh children!!!
Bc of what I went through with my ex’s kid, I talk help parents talk to kids about online safety. It’s good that you are so proactive!
The #1 thing I see parents miss in those safety talks is coming up with a plan when something bad happens so kids know what to do.
I spoke to my 14 year old niece last weekend. She wants to use Snapchat but her parents said no. I asked her what she would do if she got a dick pick from a stranger. I asked her what she would do if her boyfriend sent her one. Various situations like that.
She didn’t know what to do, so together, we came up with a plan and identified an adult in her life that she would feel comfortable talking to that isn’t her parents. A third part adult that you and your kid can trust is helpful for kids that are afraid to talk to their parents and get grounded.
For example: if your kid is online after they got grounded and something bad happened, they might be afraid to tell you since they weren’t suppose to be online, but maybe they’ll be okay speaking to an aunt or uncle.
Every situation is different
I have spoken to multiple parents about how dangerous this “game” is.
I tell them that I’d let my kids walk across times square in NYC alone before I’d let them play Roblox.
Honestly times square is pretty safe these days, but it seems to be an effective analogy to other parents emphasizing the kind of danger that roblox presents.
Damn good points.
Youngest is younger that. I’m just not letting him chat until he’s a teen
Eldest has had all the appropriate talks before he got on discord.
Making sure the parents of your kids friends are compatible politically and theologically sounds incredibly dodgy to me.
I will say this as well: strict parents raise sneaky children
Alternately they raise socially inept children if they failed to be sneaky.
Not from a multi-race household I see.
If little Timmy’s parents start talking about “those kids” my kids isn’t playing with him. Too many racist fucks out there.
the fact that theology is even a concern is a big red flag for me dawg
I feel like when ‘Zero Trust’ first became a thing, the theme was ‘you should have every endpoint under your control hardened so it need not feer untrusted peers being able to connect’. E.g. if you think you absolutely need VPN to a ‘private network’ for security, then you are failing to be hardened in a ‘zero trust’ way, because you implicitly fear that your systems would fall to untrusted peers.
I feel like it’s evolved to ‘don’t let anything be able to connect to anything under your control unless you have admin privilege over it as well’. Which is particularly a nightmare when you try to collaborate between two companies, each balking at the other’s hard requirement to have admin access to all network peers of interest.
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Corporations really, really love being admin on everybody elses devices. See kernel level anticheat.
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I feel like people have gotten zero trust (I don’t need to trust anybody) confused with “I don’t trust anybody”.
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I was listening to a podcast by packet pushers and they were like “So you meet a vendor, and they are like, ‘So what do you think zero trust means? We can work with that’”.
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what a dick move tbh. i get ya wanna be secure, but why not just let him do his thing on that alternate network?
guess this is satire. zero trust and byod mix well, just isolate from your shit and you are done. block port 25 outgoing and known c2 IPs to not taint your IP.
Probably because it was Roblox and an iPad
If it was a Nintendo DS and Pokemon Black 2 you could have never been able to deny peak
Gotta have the GTS access
The DS would not be able to connect to OP’s network to begin with.
DSi and 3DS support WPA 2, but games must be DSi Enanched to go online on WPA/WPA2. DS and DS-only games support only WEP.
To play online my DS games I have a guest network with not broadcasted SSID and no password, but only allows my DSLite, DSi and 3DS’s MAC addresses to connect one at a time and has its very own subnet. Not too secure, yeah, but it’s all I could do on my home router.
What games are you playing online?
I didn’t realize those systems had online games, or at least i image no one plays.Mostly Pokemon Black 2, Pokemon HeartGold, Mario Kart DS, and WarioWare: D.Y.I…
There are many online games on DS and DSi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_DS_Wi-Fi_Connection_games
The 3DS added a lot of focus online while the DS and DSi had it more close to a gimmick, and most games on the 3DS did have online modes.
Online service for all games was terminated in 2014, so online play of DS and DSi games is done with private servers by the community and online forums to plan games.
At this stage yes, barely anyone plays as it is now a niche community of enthusiasts.
Ah private servers, that makes sense. Pretty cool man. Enjoy
What’s the issue with the security posture of iPads you are implying?
I like the Nintendo DS and 3DS systems of consoles
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