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nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de to linuxmemes@lemmy.world · 1 month ago

Do you like systemd?

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Do you like systemd?

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  • CannedYeet@lemmy.world
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    I just like being able to use things I learn across Ubuntu, Debian, Arch and RHEL.

    Also prefixing a command with systemd-cat and having the logs go to the journal is pretty nice. Then I don’t have to worry about rotating them.

  • prime_number_314159@lemmy.world
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    I dislike systemd less than I dislike sysvinit, so it has that going for it.

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    My biggest complaint with systemd…

    Service xxx stop/start/restart is so much easier than

    Systemctl stop/start/restart xxx

    It fucking annoys me

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      29 days ago

      I neaver bothered me too much, can you not alias stop to sudo sytemctl stop xxx

      Like that you can write “stop wpa_supplicant” instead od “Sudo systemctl stop wpa_supplicant. “

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      It seems like every Linux distro I’ve used both of those will work fine.

    • enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zoneBanned
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      I mean, you could write a shell function or script to just wrap it if it bothered you that much?

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        I’d rather complain

        • enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zoneBanned
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          Understandable, have a nice day

        • InnerScientist@lemmy.world
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          1 month ago
          alias service="systemctl"
          

          Or even

          alias s="systemctl"
          
          • whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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            Note the order of the commands. I don’t mind typing aystemctl

            • ozymandias117@lemmy.world
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              1 month ago

              service() { systemctl $2 $1 }

              • whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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                1 month ago

                I love you all solutioning for something I don’t care enough about. I just find it annoying that systemctl reversed the order for some stupid reason.

  • molten@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Bzzzzz

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    She wants the system’s D. 😏

    • mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org
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      1 month ago

      She?? Expect the unexpected here

    • JackbyDev@programming.dev
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      1 month ago

      System Deez nutz

  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Please tell me your phone has a flared base?

  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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    Systemd is the greatest innovation that Linux has ever seen bar none.

    • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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      1 month ago

      bwwwwt

      • JetpackJackson@feddit.org
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        Happy cake day

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      1 month ago

      pipewire feels close

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      1 month ago

      Since I started actually doing system administration and actually interacting directly with SystemD all of the hate for it I’d soaked up from enthusiast forums melted away. I’ve never used any of the other init systems so maybe I’m missing out, but I do appreciate SystemD for what it does

  • nialv7@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    may i ask you to kindly provide the source of this image?

    • real_squids@sopuli.xyz
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      1 month ago

      frenky_hw, here’s the specific image: twitter (hopefully it is, twitter doesn’t work for me rn)

      • nialv7@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        tsm❤️

      • tal@olio.cafe
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        1 month ago

        twitter doesn’t work for me rn)

        https://nitter.space/moschino_bunny/status/1457773412957376530

        • Gonzako@lemmy.world
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          1 month ago

          Tal out here giving solutions

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            1 month ago

            An admirable example of working harder, not smarter

  • BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 month ago

    Systemd has been a complete, utter, unmitigated success.

    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
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      I fully agree. I am a user with a bit of technical background, but not a lot of detailled knowledge about the inner workings of an operating system (i know boolean logic and basic programming structures - in Pascal lol - from the 90’s, what a transistor does and stuff, how to build my own PCs and handle filesystems and troubleshooting).

      With init scripts, i hit a wall pretty fast.

      With Systemd i know how to start, stop and configure services, and the suite built around it uses the same conventions everywhere, making the everyday life with Linux for someone like me so much easier and more transparent than ever before.

    • michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Have you considered that just “reaping old process IDs” wasn’t enough responsibility for an init daemon on a secure, robust system? That maybe it should be protecting other parts of the system and tracking the liveness of a desired service?

      What is the benefit of specifically doing that in init?

      If I see an argument like this then I can only assume the interlocutor doesn’t do software engineering.

      Its more likely that the user simply has simple needs like running stuff at startup which any init system can do and doesn’t see as much benefits as poster.

      Also who loves systemd-resolved?

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        What is the benefit of specifically doing that in init?

        What’s the alternative?

        Also who loves systemd-resolved?

        I don’t think I will ever love anything DNS-related, but it’s still the best solution I’ve used for name resolution on a system with many interfaces.

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        Being able to assign a nameserver per interface with a domain wildcard is a fucking godsend. I use it every day with a hook script because my job uses some private domains but I don’t want to send my entire DNS history through the VPN. Now ~job.com goes to tun0 and that’s the end of it.

        systemd-resolved is not perfect but with libnss’s overly rigid nature the only alternative for my use-case would be to recreate similar functionality to resolved with dnsmasq – which is just objectively worse especially when you want to use DHCP sometimes but not always. Why reinvent the wheel? resolved does its job and does it well. I had some issues with it a few years ago but have been using it for the past couple years without complaint.

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    Must your climax be fueled by our frustrations? Vibrators are cheap, you know.

    • archonet@lemy.lol
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      Must your climax be fueled by our frustrations?

      Maybe that’s exactly what gets him off.

      • tal@olio.cafe
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        Frankly, this should be implemented with something like a combination of:

        https://github.com/QazCetelic/lemmy-know

        Lemmy Know (let me know) is a lightweight CLI application / Docker service that monitors Lemmy for reports on posts and comments and sends notification. These can be sent to a Discord channel with a webhook or as MQTT messages (schema), which is useful for more complex setups with e.g., Node-RED.

        https://www.home-assistant.io/

        Open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first. Powered by a worldwide community of tinkerers and DIY enthusiasts.

        https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/mqtt/

        MQTT (aka MQ Telemetry Transport) is a machine-to-machine or “Internet of Things” connectivity protocol on top of TCP/IP. It allows extremely lightweight publish/subscribe messaging transport.

        https://github.com/DevelopmentalOctopus/ha-buttplug

        Buttplug.io Integration for Home Assistant

        https://intiface.com/central/

        Intiface® Central is an open-source, cross-platform application that acts as a hub for intimate haptics/sensor hardware access

        Some collection of hardware devices from:

        https://iostindex.com/?filter0Availability=Available%2CDIY&filter1Connection=Digital&filter2ButtplugSupport=4

        That’d permit for, say, having message events drive a state machine to control devices or something like that.

        • whimsy@lemmy.zip
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          The unix shell pipeline keeps giving

        • archonet@lemy.lol
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          I’m not sure whether I’m more impressed or disturbed by the amount of thought you’ve given this

    • harmbugler@piefed.social
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      It’s just not the same

  • satanmat@lemmy.world
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    SystemD is that like ntoskrnl.exe?

    • somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      delete it for free space! (and freedom!)

      …

      …i’m not asking. do it.

  • Log in | Sign up@lemmy.world
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    Well, that’s one way to “use” systemd, I guess.

  • Rooty@lemmy.world
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    The other day I wrote I like snaps and shot more rope than Spiderman.

    • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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      Flatpak is amazing especially with storage being so cheap these days.

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        OK, Satan.

      • Lag@lemmy.world
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        Just replying to keep the vibes going.

      • Rooty@lemmy.world
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        I still remember the bad old days of stale repositories and compiling from scratch. Never again.

        • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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          There was 25 years between c;m;mi and lennart’s cancer, filled with excellent choices better than either.

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        I just had an issue with the vscodium flatpak, been using it for two months with no issue in an online course, got to learning GUIs, import module, doesn’t exist. I couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t there, installed three different python versions of it three different ways, still nothing. Couldn’t even get vscodium to point to a different interpreter that I knew was there (yet it doesn’t say it’s not there, just that some things won’t work). Still nothing. Three hours later, after trying everything I could think of, I realized that it was because I installed the flatpak version when it clicked that it worked in Geany and I didn’t have python 3.13 in my repos, yet that was the only one I could see in vscodium.

        • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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          That sounds like user error.

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            From a broad enough perspective, everything is user error

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            Vscodium isn’t in the repos for opensuse, but yes, this user should have found a way to install it on bare metal in the first place.

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              Have you tried butterflies?

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    Okay, so, this place IS filled with furries. Cool.

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      :3

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      Linux wouldn’t work without furries

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      We’re all shipping the penguin and the wildebeest.

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      Every online space is filled with furries, especially the most furry-hostile spaces!

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        That’s disgusting, I prefer furry-hostile tabs!

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          I love it when the hostility adapts to my system

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      Is putting phone in ass a furry thing?

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        Thought it was more a prison thing.

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        The depicted character has a snout and cat ears

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          maybe she was just born that way

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            Why cat ears now, I can’t say
            Maybe she was just born that waaaaayyyyy

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          And an anus!

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            and my axe

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    Rule 34:

    If there’s a user base, there’s buttplug.io support…

    • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      “I know my playerbase.” -Hakita, the dev of Ultrakill

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      Let’s hope the user base is flared.

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      Error: That number is already picked for a different rule. Please select a different number.

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        Sigh

        sudo Rule 34:

        If there’s a user base, there’s buttplug.io support…

        –force

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          If you used the right amount of lube you wouldn’t have to force!

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        Maybe consider rule 33. ‘Lurk more its never enough’

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          That’s taken too.

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            Lurk more its never enough is rule 33.

            https://rules.nebula-system.com/rule-33

            Which you didn’t follow.

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