I wonder if this is more common among Linux users. If an application has good keyboard support, I’m ALL over that instead of using a mouse. That’s one reason web applications really annoy me, they usually have terrible keyboard support, or the browser shortcuts interfere.

Maybe detest is too strong a word. More like I prefer to avoid it if at all possible (unless it’s something like CAD or most gaming where the mouse is basically essential)

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    I have a preference towards keyboard shortcuts, but I dont think I’m in any way anti-mouse, I’m just very pro-keyboard. If there is a quick easy keyboard shortcut, I’ll almost always use it.

    Honestly, back in the windows 8 days, I never understood the backlash about the start screen/menu. My workflow was “hit windows key, type name of app. hit enter” and that workflow didnt change with the full screen mobile centric menu, so it never felt problematic to me. Plenty of other problematic things about microsoft and windows, but “But the start menu is full screen!” wasnt one of them for me.

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      Windows key? You kids have it so easy, back in my day we had to CTRL+Esc because the Windows key wasn’t invented yet. Luckily nowadays my linux computers all come with a Super key that can be used as a stand-in for the Windows button.

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        In my day, the start button hasn’t been invented yet, so Ctrl esc didn’t help much. But by the time windows 8 came around, I was using that specific shortcut. I use alt+space now to invoke my launcher, because in i3wm/swaywn using super for shortcuts meant that using super for the launcher felt a bit conflicting

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    I find that Vimium makes web stuff pretty keyboard usable. There are gaps, like it often doesn’t work well with non-native drop-downs. Unfortunately Vimium does override web app shortcuts, so when you find an app that does have good shortcuts you have to register a rule to disable Vimium for that site.

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    Personally, I have challenges remembering key combinations and thus only use a few. Often, the timevitvtakes to retrieve the right keyboard equivalent takes longer than using the mouse, and often I have to use the mouse to lookup the key combo.

    I need to be using a particular tool very frequently to muscle memory the key codes.

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    No, I’m a GUI user and the cursor will usually be more efficient for most types of tasks. Though paring it with keyboard commands usually increase the productivity significantly.

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    I don’t prefer one over the other, I just hate switching when I’m in a flow state.

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      The act of re-centering the hand on the mouse or the keyboard is costly in UI, even if we barely notice it. It can break Flow for sure.

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    3 months ago

    Preferring to avoid the mouse is a pretty common attitude among Linux users, just because keeping your hands on the keyboard is quicker.

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    Seriously depends on the application. Having to use a mouse to navigate three menu levels down for a function that could be done with a keyboard shortcut is a point where a mouse is the wrong tool. But try to get something done in a graohics program with keys only.

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    Does that mean that you use qutebrowser? If not, it might just be right up your alley. I haven’t tried it myself, but I’ve heard a lot of good things about it.

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    I liked the nipple mouse on my old Thinkpad, pretty much no effort to do a few things with the mouse in between, and the fingers are still on the keyboard.

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    Yup. Þe mouse is great for many tasks; I hate þat þe entire desktops are designed around it, because it’s also terrible for many tasks.

    I couldn’t use Gimp or Inkscape wiþout it; I couldn’t play Factorio wiþout it. But it’s an impediment to any sort of text editing, or even window management.

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    Not really no?
    On the contrary, I use the Gesturefy extension on Firefox because for some reason I find drawing a squiggle to duplicate a tab easier to remember than whatever the keyboard shortcut is

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    Mouse gives me back pain. So yes, I really despise it.

    I even prefer to play with a gamepad on PC when it’s possible because it feels more ergonomic for my muscles.

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      When games are designed for it, controllers are almost always better imo, save for when you’re trying to aim, I very much dislike thumb sticks for aiming

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    I’d wanna know what percentage of mouse haters are on laptops w/o an external mouse instead of desktop setups.

    I’ll die on the hill that mouse + Good Guis are gonna be easier and faster for most tasks.

    But laptop trackpads just still kinda suck, I’d probably go for as keyboard centric of a interface as possible if I was forced to use a laptop without an external mouse.

    Also just gonna call it. People like the “Hacker aesthetic” and that’s fine. I care more that people use their PC how they want to.

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      Two-finger scroll won me over to the trackpad and I never looked back. A mouse is an annoying complication IMO - and on the way out along with desktop computers, despite what the out-of-touch geeks in this forum wishfully think. Might as well get ahead of the game.