Okay funny, but yeah Tesla on here kinda fucks it up because Elon is not a founder of Tesla, and he’s not visionary unless you count finding new ways to make it worthless. Elon is not visionary in any of his businesses, he just has money and pays people under him to try to make him look good. Emphasis on try
He is an asshole though, I’ll give you that
Oh, but Elon is a founder, he paid enough to retcon himself as such, so he is.
Can’t argue him being a ‘visionary’ though, unless you count ambitions that are vague enough so they are not actually actionable and obvious enough that pretty much any random person would be predicting the same thing.
Paying to say you are something doesn’t mean people need to accept it. He’s not a founder of Tesla under conventional understanding and he never will be. It’s as simple as that
All we’ve got to do is forget how it went down and ask Grok to tell us instead…
Instructions unclear, grok is now shouting about Hitler.
Until 2015 or so he did look good. Whenever the divers debacle was.
'member r/enoughmuskspam ? Reddit was blowing him so hard there was a sub asking to please tone it down a little.
Eh, calling Linus ‘quiet’ kind of cancels it out.
Actually, Elmo didn’t found Tesla.
That nickname is an insult to compassionate and intelligent muppets.
For real tho.
I was never exposed to the show (etc.) actually & still find it terribly insulting.
i prefer Felon Stank
That’s an insult to felons and the concept of odors.
phoney stark, dorkmaga, space karen.
also how could steve jobs be visionary if he needed glasses
Checkmate presbytarians
he couldnt see that his pnet(pancreatic) cancer was a rare type, and it was slow growing compared to usual one( usually metastic by the time of diagnosis and pretty lethal). he went on all fruit diet to treat until it was too late.
His only vision was profit.
Needed glasses to count the profits in cents.
My university textbooks said he did. I was dumfounded when I saw that.
Hopefully they didn’t charge you absurd prices for those shitty books, but i already know they did
I hope your tuition is free then. Sounds like you could get a better education from chatgpt.
Free at the point of service.
But that just means I’m paying indirectly via taxation. It’s still being paid for somehow.
Taxpayers are paying for lies to be spread at university level, to stroke the ego of a known Nazi and potential paedophile. Yippee…
I asked grok and it said he did. It also said earth was cylindrical.
Are you sure you spoke to grok? Did it mention white genocide or mechahitler?
Didn’t he in fact sue the actual founders to be allowed to be called a founder?
I thought he paid extra to be able to tell that lie.
Paying a Lawyer to make the others agree is kind of the same thing, right?
It’s exactly the same thing, except for being more scummy and entitled.
Par for the course with that guy
I believe the lawsuit was settled. I don’t really remember the details, but sounds super-Musky that that would be part of the terms of the settlement.
I replace your reality with my own, using the legal system.
*money through the legal system
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Given his history, if he had to sue someone to be able to use a title, it’s probably not a legitimate title.
I love how this could be a quote from a Crusader Kings community.
Only needs a little more Byzantium bashing and incest and it’s archetypical 😁
Shouldn’t the last Linux image be, like, a crowd of FOSS developers?
Also, the second image should be a penguin in a tuxedo.
Elon musk didn’t found tesla. He’s also an idiot nepo baby, not a visionary.
One out of three ain’t bad.
Elon to my knowledge hasn’t been the founder of a single project he’s been part of. He’s bought everything.
His initial lottery ticket of a business Zip2 I think he was fairly a founder.
I know next to nothing about it because no one ever heard of it before Compaq had a huge case of dot-com FOMO and paid $300 million for it, where it promptly went nowhere like it already was.
Wait, didn’t he contribute like 100 lines of code to PayPal?
Who founded SpaceX, then?
Thomas John Mueller
NASA obviously, all the technology, funding, lab structure, education pipeline and of course all the ideas are from NASA.
Spacex only exists so that NASA’s activities can be extracted rent from by outsides.
Ohh, so like he’s the Tommy Tallarico of tech
Did… did Joey Kuras found Tesla too?
Isn’t he the founder of SpaceX?
I think you’re right about everything else though.
Yep, he’s your typical parasitic orbiting-usurper, buzzing around people of talent until the opportunity presents itself for him to steal all their work while they’re busy making the future happen.
Steve Jobs was exactly the same. Wozniak made the Apple 1 a reality and before that, he used Wozniak’s discarded Pong PCBs to get a job at Atari. At Atari he was just a talentless socially domineering psychopath doing shakedown on the company’s nerd for his lunch money.
When assigned a task to create a cost-optimized version of the game Breakout, were he was offered 100$ for each TTL chip he could optimize out of the design. So he went to his “friend” Wozniak, who managed to remove 50 chips from the design. Steve Jobs made 5000$ (in 1976 money) and he “let” Wozniak have 375$ of this. All jobs did is the menial work of etching the PCBs sketched by Wozniak and solder some of them.
Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are truely despicable pieces of shit and I say as a society, and for the good of everyone, we should use the dystopian surveillance capitalism to find all people like them and box them right out so we don’t have to suffer such parasitic psychopaths.
Unlike Elon, I feel like Steve Jobs legitimately had skills. Of course, it’s completely despicable of him to scoop more than 10x the profit compared to Woz in that example. I guess what I’m trying to say is that Jobs was a talented asshole, but Elon is just a no-talent asshole.
It’s completely despicable for any person in a company to be making 10x compared to the janitor.
I think it safe to assume Steve Jobs simply stole absolutely everything else he got credit for. As a powerful person in the organization, other people simply came up to him with their ideas hoping he would bestow on them rewards and he just stole their shit and then made them silent about it. This is how it works in nearly all corporation, whoever has power just legally steals everyone’s work and crushes anyone that complains about it. I filed a patent where I work and I didn’t even get a full week’s pay for it. Not even a paid vacation either, just a simple bonus, my request for unpaid time off was also denied.
Work for yourself or people who respect you more. You filed a patent, you are able to understand how the system works.
I think if you watch this 2009 video, Elon has visionary plans, but fame and money made his ego push the ideals out of his head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktkV0N0Oask
The thing is, literally anyone working in the industry had visionary ideas at that time. The best of which were completely destroyed by people like Musk, Gates, and others that forced a profit model on an internet with unlimited potential.
The most frustrating thing about the net is how much it has become owned by private companies. Our entire model of digital sales is built on a fake idea of scarcity on a technology that entirely removes the scarcity of resources that capitalism requires.
People like him succeeded not because they had visionary or ground breaking ideas. They succeeded because they offered monetization models that could capture digital infrastructure and restrict its potential in order for their investor’s to profit.
Edit: if this rant interests you you’d enjoy this documentary.
Same with Jobs on the “visionary” part – the only thing that guy ever visualized was bigger stacks of money.
In fairness to Jobs, he may have been an arsehole, but he was also an incredible salesman who knew what his customers wanted.
I’m old enough to remember how genuinely captivating his product presentations could be. The shit that Apple pre-records these days is worthless by comparison.
Sure, he was a good salesman, but any perception that he was the idea man was a deliberately cultivated lie. Woz had all the actually good ideas early on, then later it was other engineers.
It isn’t enough to have good ideas if you can’t persuade someone to buy them.
A) I don’t agree, and B) that’s not really relevant or incompatible with what I said.
That only makes sense if you assume the only purpose of ideas is to turn them into profit.
Many of my great ideas COST me money, but I still end up better off afterwards.
I always thought the “ideas” he got credit for were in domains like design and customer experience, not necessarily technical engineering.
That’s at least among people that know some minimal information about him. I imagine that the huge numbers of normie folks who don’t pay attention to phones unless they’re buying one either don’t know who he is or would just fall back to assuming the superficial public visionary genius image is accurate.
But that’s how our culture and media are designed to condition regular folks to accept our leaders as our betters. I mean who cares if some dark triad personality motherfucker is a monster to their own family just as much as their employees as long as the make money and create success*!
- success = money
I think Jobs had his issues, but I do have to consider it fair for folks to claim him to be a visionary.
There was a presentation back in '97 where someone a bilt salty about Apple abandoning OpenDoc for Java and Jobs had a pretty solid response with insight.
Not so sure about post-iPod Jobs, but once upon a time he certainly seemed a respectable business leader with good product focus.
More delusional than visionary.
Lost Stallman…
RMS is the Woz of the Linux world.
This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on Stallman and Linux lmao
I’ll never not upvote this.
To be fair, none of this would have happened without Stallman, and I understand the criticism. But let’s remember, there are things that he did that were very positive for computing. If it weren’t for Stallman it is doubtful that we would have a free operating system to this day.
The criticism is pretty ridiculous. I can’t stand Stallman’s prescriptivist takes on language, but he was and is always right about the naming. I remember the people who insisted that it’s because the kernel was the most important part immediately called it Android and not Linux, then made a bunch of excuses.
Just be honest and don’t hide behind “I don’t use GNU so there!” kind of obnoxious stupidity. We say Linux because it stuck, not because the kernel is more important. Saying GNU or GNU/Linux or whatever was always a reasonable request that people rejected because they were either just too used to Linux or were actively worthless scumbag dumbfucks.
I see it the same way you might give a loved one an occasional ribbing for something they have an ongoing hangup about, or even once yelled about several years ago.
It sucks for him and his recognition that “Linux” is such a good name that people use it for the entire OS. But the dude is basically still a hero. Anybody who helped really get the FOSS/GNU/Linux movement going is. We have a huge amount of the tech world that runs so well on free and open software, plus it’s well beyond the critical mass where it isn’t going anywhere and will be an option permanently (barring some event that also, you know, ends civilization).
There is a quote from a TV programme called “firefly” which I like.
“It’s my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of a son of a bitch or another. Ain’t about you. It’s about what they need.”
Quite fitting, wouldn’t you say?
Haha, very fitting and a great quote from a great show.
If Stallman had his way, the entire Linux ecosystem would be in the same state as GNU Hurd. His vision, work, and activism in the days of Unix was a massive benefit to free software at large, probably forever. Now he thinks Debian isn’t free enough because it offers an optional nonfree repository.
womansplained to death lmao
Boþ Linux and Jobs could also fill þe missing “abrasive perfectionist” column.
Well von holzhausen is American born, raised and educated. https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Holzhausen Also Elmo didn’t found shit.
You may not like it, but this is what the peak full stack dev looks like.
they all look the same too
I would have figured the three Linuses would have been like:
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Enthusiastic loud mouthed young Linus arguing with Tannenbaum.
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Aggressive Linus with no filter at all slapping maintainers upside the head.
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Aggressive Elder Linus with a personal insult filter applied still slapping maintainers upside the head.
I laughed too hard
Stallman, ?, Linus 😉
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This is wrong (in my opinion)
great art is polarizing
You come across as a friendly uplifting troll just looking for laughs, and I am here for it.
Fixed it with some that should be there and a melon put where he should be
I was hoping this would happen
Lawful Good Steve “My fling and NOT MY child live on welfare” Jobs 🤔🤔🤔
That is disturbingly wrong on too many levels.
A crime against humanity is what it is.There obv is such a thing as a too low effort meme.
thank you
It’s good except that that half of the chart are pretty evil IMO.
Elon didn’t found shit
Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning 4 lyyyyyfe
and he isn’t visionary. that’s 2 out of 3…
I’ll allow asshole but it’s still a bit too flattering for him.
Removed by mod
He is a bit of an asshole but yeah.
Oh my God is Linux pronounced Line-ux?
That’s how I used to say it decades ago when it was one of those “I have only ever read it” words.
It’s probably because I knew the name Linus from Peanuts / Charlie Brown, and in that they pronounce it “Lie-nuss.” So back then I said “Lie-nux.” When I first heard it as “Linn-nix” it sounded not just wrong but less cool.
But between having watched videos of Torvalds speak, and knowing a handful of Finland’s neighbors (Swedes) the correct pronunciation of “Linn-nix” is the only way I even think of it in my head now.
For me, the I is longer and the u more european as well. Like the u in pugs. More like “Leen-ux”
Thats at least how we say it in Germany. But in english i usally speak it with a short ‘I’
Apparently, Linus’ name is pronounced like how people normally pronounce Linux, according to his Wikipedia page.
omfg seriously?
Incredible
On the chance this isn’t a joke, no it isn’t, Linus has said so himself
