I can still do this provided that the language is Perl. But the few cases when I actually have to do so are rare, and never in public.
Well yeah, Perl is write-only. Larry Wall asked the monkey’s paw for a language that works on the first try. What’s onscreen are your raw brain patterns.
Thank god it runs like crap. Optimized C isn’t pretty, but any project that compiles proves someone looked at it more than once.
and never in public
Lol
The true psychopaths are those sweating about which tools other people use
He found Richard Stallman without knowing it
I prefer man pages through google
If it was man pages then they were likely scripting not coding. 🤷♀️
Edit: Obligatory “Actchuuuallllyyy*”
“Actually”… man pages also include information about the standard Unix C functions.
Knew someone was going to correct me some how. Love it! Learn something new every day.
Back in my day we would program using office hole puncher and going to a library every time we needed to look up some API information.
Yesterday I spent about 2 hours trying to get ChatGPT to walk me through the install process of putting Arch on a 2011 MacBook Air. It just wouldn’t work and the further along we got the harder it seemed and I really thought that using AI was necessary. I finally gave up and read the Arch Wiki and had it installed in under 45 minutes.
That tracks. The AI push is extraordinarily premature. It makes sense that capitalist idiots see mass layoffs as improvement, but rational people do not.
I tried reading the gadget bridge instructions for my watch. Could not get a straight answer on getting the authorization key (I’m a noob), wasted 2 hr. o3 gave me perfect instructions that got it done in 20 minutes. Ya win some ya lose some.
Yeah. It is really good at some things and bad at other things. I used to have a good sense for it but the arch install threw me off.
I find it’s good at giving regex commands from natural language and vise versa. It’s really helped me get a grip on that aspect of learning (neo)vim.
Vim ftw!
I should fork vim and call it ‘death’, so I can shout “give me vim or give me death!” any time someone suggests a different editor.
It’s vi… but improved!
Vim but improved is better, aka Neovim
Vimproved
Neovimproved
nah, neovim
Helix crew 🖐️
Helix FTW!
As another Helix user, I’ll gladly accept the high five 👏
My bruh 👊
There are literally dozens of us!
Are you a Helix user and a skater?!
I can’t live without vim.
Sometimes I wander into vscode but it’s less productive for me.
Plus vscode has weird name inconsistencies (the app is called visual studio code, it’s branded as vscode, and the menu bar says Code), which is probably normal for Microsoft but unusual elsewhere.
I wouldn’t stress about it. Code was never meant to be edited in a web browser anyway.
and there is also Visual Studio which is a separate thing aswell
Some of the plugins I find super useful for running stuff remotely, but man do I miss vim while I’m there.
no Google
I do not believe you.
Arch Linux
Okay, fine. A rare sighting.
I remember using man pages when I was contributing to a C open source project back in the day.
C and Bash are the only languagss that man pages are useful for
I’m literally designing some code now and realized that I used DuckDuckGo to find man pages for system calls… from my Arch laptop. 😑
They did it before the Internet was even a thing, my friend.
I was there. I was one of them. I just chose to use tools to make my life easier. Call me a sell out, I guess.
Nope, not a sell out. Just a person using the tools at hand. You can’t just live in the past. You did it without Google back then because there was no Google and you had to use what you had to use. Now you use Google, because again, you have to use what you have to use. In the end, I personally only care about the outcome.
I just chose to use tools to make my life easier
If you don’t then I’d call you stupid. Keep doing that, friend. That’s the best way actually. You want your life easier so you can put out great work.
Google went live in 98? First Arch in 02?
I’m talking about developers in general before even Linux was a thing. I thought that was obvious in my comment. Guess not, I need to work more on my English.
I understood your point fine. I indeed started out with first Commodore BASIC and then into 6502, all using the manuals because there wasn’t much else of a source back then.
Thank you, kindly. I’ve heard that manuals where fun to use (sarcasm). Unfortunately, I am old enough to remember those days, but wasn’t fortunate enough to own or even be able to witness such gems in real life.
Your English is fine. The same words often evoke different mental images from one person to another. Sometimes I have trouble distinguishing when to embrace literal meanings and when to go with the general gist of words. Thanks for addressing my comment, a gentle reminder for me.
Thank you 🫡
But he went out of his way to install man pages on arch? Probably a narc.
Aren’t they there by default?
Noop, you have to install the man-db package
If you’re using arch, you shouldn’t need man pages. Because you use arch, BTW.
Wait, what? Arch has more comprehensive documentation than just about any other distro.
It does. It’s wonderful. But it isn’t installed by default. You have to ask for it. Or use the Internet.
There are dozens of us. And we are used to reading manuals, since we first installed our system.
It is extremely easy to use the internet without using google.
Yeah, otherwise it would have been very hard before they came into being.
Remember when the internet was more than like 5 websites?
Gen Z doesn’t.
My favorite thing about StumbleUpon was basically opening me up to a whole Internet without touching Google, and it showed me so many fun things. RIP.
Jumpstick.app comes pretty close though.
Someone at work was shocked I was using RubyMine and not VSCode or Cursor. Am I getting old now ?
Yay! Cencorship! I spent an extra 3 seconds focusing on the word psychopath trying to figure out what went wrong instead of reading it like a normal word. Isn’t that so much better than offending an algorithm with the letter ‘h’?
Ngl didn’t even notice it was covered until I read your comment
You saw that but not devloper? Buncha amateurs.
Could also just be a non native English speaker.
There is a couple of pixels coming out from the middle of the ‘l’
Yea fair I guess I’m tired
Well have a nap…
THEN FIRE Z MISSILES!!!
What about the Y missiles?I stand corrected
Psychopatl
Wasn’t that one of the Incan gods?
I was thinking Nahuatl
I think it is some kind of winged puma with the bosom of a woman.
You are thinking of the one they used to design the common keyboard layout, Qwertycoatl.
I’m partial to Tomatl and Ahuacatl
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I had an internship 15 years ago where I was forced to write C++ with no internet access. I had to use a programming manual and man pages.
I’d just write C and get annoyed by the #includes having different names.
Like an animal.
25 years ago I was writing code in a paper notebook, sometimes while riding the bus. The only computer access was at college and it was easier to work through the code on paper and then quickly transcribe it once I got on campus.
Yeah, things are a bit more complicated now, but in other ways they are sooooo much easier. The fact that people are using chatGPT to ‘program’ is just crazy from my perspective.
I had CS exams that were coding only that i had to do on paper. For multiple classes. There is no debugging on paper.
I just read the headers
Is psychopatl an Aztec insult I don’t know about?
(For any nerd wondering, the name of the language is Nahuatl but I guess Aztec language is more recognizable for the sake of the joke lol)
It cut off the h.
Props for living up to your username
Type of dinosaur I believe
Someone cropped the last line? What a sociopatl
I was going to ask how he knew it was Arch, but I feel like that is just setting up the next comment.
He told him
I use Arch by the way.
