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      V is easily the weakest TOS movie but it at least still has interesting ideas attempted in it, unlike the completely null achievements of the Next Gen movies. It’s the sixth-best Star Trek movie by a country mile.

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        TLDR; I believe Generations is the best of the TNG films and easily in the top 5 classic films, even if the TNG film series as a whole falls short.

        I admit that overall, I would call TOS films the better series of Trek films - Search for Spock and Final Frontier are probably the only ones I wouldn’t rewatch, meaning 2/3 overall of the TOS films are actually enjoyable in my opinion. In comparison, I am not a fan of half the TNG movies (NEM and Insurrection).

        However, I disagree with lumping all the Next Generation movies as “completely null”; First Contact was at least reasonably fun. My biggest complaint might be the Guinan snub for Barclay.

        Meanwhile, I feel like Generations is the rare Star Trek film that really just feels like a 2 hour episode (with TMP and maybe Voyage Home the only two other ones like it). I enjoyed the mortality commentary (almost worth the sacrifice of Picard’s entire family, but not quite), while nothing strikes me as more classically Star Trek than campily choreographed fight scenes between a bunch of old men. I also personally enjoyed Data’s arc - I feel like they made sure when it got annoying, it was purposeful, and they dialed it back right when they needed to.

        Overall, I don’t think it’s fair to lump the first two TNG films into the bottom 5 like their later counterparts (which do deserve it); Generations probably joins Voyage Home for my favorite Trek films to rewatch.

        Anyhow, have a wonderful evening. 🖖

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          TLDR; I believe Generations is the best of the TNG films and easily in the top 5 classic films, even if the TNG film series as a whole falls short.

          “TL;DR I think ketchup and mayonnaise makes the best sauce for ice cream”
          Thanks for saving me the time because I did not read farther.