Lemmy’s design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can’t post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you’re basically censored.

Lemmy isn’t designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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    Just don’t be a woman on Lemmy.

    Sure, most people won’t downvote or harass you just for being a woman (a lot will… we didn’t get the best of Reddit at all, and I doubt the new adoptees are any better…) but they will often enough make things difficult even if they aren’t actively causing problems.

    But men of Lemmy (aka the vast majority of the user base since they ran off all the womenfolk) don’t care. They see that as quality control or some dumb shit, because THEY aren’t interested in woman things, so nobody should be, or they think their “as a man” comments should be important or some shit… Whatever the post is about. If it doesn’t cater to them, it can fuck right off.

    Which is why cis women make up <10% of the Lemmy side of the fediverse. It’s a disaster for women here.

    But I wonder how long you’ve been here. Most of the posts of this nature are from very new accounts and they don’t know the problems yet…

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      I’ve not had a problem here, do you have examples of this? Not saying it does not exist, more curious as I’ve found this space a lot kinder than reddit.

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      The downvotes prove your point. This topic needs more discussion, but most of the times when women bring this up, their comments get downvoted to hell. It’s quite a “gotcha” for someone to ask to see “examples” when most of the examples we’ve come across or created will be buried or have since been deleted.

      Alternative question - for those that don’t believe this is an issue, when is the last time you came across a post on Lemmy that is specifically for/about women or women’s issues (especially one posted from a woman’s perspective)? Or even better, go ahead and make such a post. Watch how fast the downvotes come.

      I expect this comment to be downvoted the same way as the parent comment was, the same way that past posts I’ve made and read about women’s issues have been downvoted on Lemmy. If men want this place to be inclusive for women, they have to do their part to support us - not downvoting our concerns, simply because they don’t experience the same issues, is the absolute bare minimum. Otherwise, why would we keep posting/commenting about our issues when doing so invites a downvote cascade?

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        No, the downvotes are because nobody was victimizing her here but she went off on a rant and called me horrible things that I don’t deserve to be called. Sexism can go in any direction and I don’t tolerate any of it.

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        Alternative question - for those that don’t believe this is an issue, when is the last time you came across a post on Lemmy that is specifically for/about women or women’s issues (especially one posted from a woman’s perspective)? Or even better, go ahead and make such a post. Watch how fast the downvotes come.

        I’m not going to say it isn’t a problem, but this was just the other day and while engagement could have been better it didn’t seem to be met with downvotes and pushback.

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        when is the last time you came across a post on Lemmy that is specifically for/about women or women’s issues

        The same amount of time I came across a post that is about men’s issues. A really long time. The vast majority of comments should not be about identity politics, unless it is a feature of the specific community.

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        I just got downvoted for asking for an example of this. I have been using Lemmy quite a bit in the last month (way more than I should) and I have never come across what you’re talking about. I might be wrong, I haven’t seen all the posts created on Lemmy, that is why I’m asking for an example.

        If I make the claim that 4chan is full of racist, nazi fucks, that is easy to verify and provide examples of in a few minutes. Similarly, the burden of proof should be on the one making the claim.

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      “Which is why cis women make up <10% of the Lemmy side of the fediverse. It’s a disaster for women here.”

      I mean I can believe that since it’s based off of Reddit but do you have a source for that?

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      I know multiple IRL women who don’t share your complaints about Lemmy. Maybe people are shitty to you because you’re shitty to them.

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      That’s how it is anywhere that doesn’t have any real moderation. There are those actively seek to harass anyone who isn’t right leaning cis hetero white male. Lemmy like every other modern social platform is an open air forum available to the entire 7 billion population of the world. Moderators don’t see 99% of the posts. And 99% of what they do see, they don’t take for than a few seconds to consider. The nefarious abusers are almost always more subtle than moderators give thought to. This allows harassment to run rampant. This is a fundamental issue with social media. As as I’m concerned it’s an intractable problem (brought you by free speech absolutist libertarian bros).

      That’s as opposed to the traditional internet boards where posting was orders of magnitude lower volume. Site administrators and moderators cared about fostering a good community. Moderators saw a not insignificant portion of the content posted. Not just reports. Forum members used one pseudonym. No throwaways like the reddit/lemmy paradigm. What you posted was attached to you as a person. Therefore there was consequences to being an asshole. In other words deterrence.

      Also I find it kind of amusing how they out themselves for their simpleton world view. I’ve noticed a pattern where they take superficial readings of a post to identify keywords/phrases. Then assign identity to that user. Then engage in harassment based on that.

      For example say I posted something that was sympathetic to women. Ergo they assume I am a woman. And they engage the usual framework of belligerent replies appropriate to that assumed identity. I know for certain the key words in the second sentence of this comment already has triggered someone for sure.

      Edit: The prior replies are just *chefs kiss*. I can’t tell if they’re being intentional or if they’re just that dumb. I guess that’s part of the fun isn’t it.

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      Is this really the case? I find this unexpected. Lemmy seems to be friendly to the LGBTQ people, namely trans.

      If what you say is true, we should probably address it somehow.

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      Also, smaller servers means that it’s easier to spot criminal communities and boot their asses. Also individual servers can be cracked down on for hosting evil content, without all of Lemmy being destroyed.

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          Sadly Reddit has been toeing the line and has been banning any accounts for “threatening violence” for any support of Luigi no matter how peaceful or non-violent or ANY criticism of Elon The Musky Husky

          Heck even before my account was banned I was warned for “advocating violence” just for saying “It’s understandable to wanna punch Nazis”

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            You can’t ask a social network to support ideas that involve violence and murders. I know Luigi is a hero for many but it was an illegal action. You can think any monarchy is anacronyst nowadays, but you can’t go and shoot any of those useless humans that think they can be called king or queen like we were living in mediaeval times

            And remember that any insurance system is not that different from a national system, you can convert one into the other any time. The problem is with shitty brains which can go and spread their shitty ideas either here or there. Since national systems can be so corrupted, it’s ok to have a private way to clean them up from time to time.

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              It’s not that I want Reddit to support violence, it’s that I want Reddit to support free speech

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                Let me suggest you don’t become too attached to a mainstream digital tool

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    Oh my sweet summer child. EVERY new service and SocMed site starts out like this. Fresh, fun, and working properly. Until the masses show up. That’s when it goes to shit.

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        You could do that if you wanted, but if we had these moderation things will probably be fine. It’s also Eternal September

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      Yep, it’s just a matter of time till karma system is getting implemented on here too

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        Why make this assumption? Is there a reason you believe we need that karma system? I genuinely can’t think of any reason, outside of corporate interest to push engagement.

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          Yep, any sort of karma system is needed to get the masses to join somewhere. To attract the majority of people you need something that keep them interested. Karma on reddit is the same as likes on Facebook or Instagram

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            Horrible take. I absolutely do not give a fuck about arbitrary internet points and would like to see an open discussion without a majority bias downvoting someone into oblivion just because they disagree. For example, your comment will not be hidden just because your comment is being downvoted.

            The only thing bringing profile karma to Lemmy will do is attract botters to inflate their credibility. Those could also be used to downvote others so the botter’s comments and posts are pushed to the top.

            Again, horrible idea.

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            Of course you can see the comment’s individual karma. But, if you got my profile or yours, there is not accumulated karma.

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          I genuinely can’t think of any reason, outside of corporate interest to push engagement.

          On Reddit, I found that blocking people by account age and link karma noticeably improved the site. edit: For example, blocking 1 year old accounts with more than 100k link karma. /edit Mostly helped me filter out karma farmers from my feed that did nothing but repost memes or low effort shitposts.

          Of course, not having total karma publicly tracked might make reposting a nonissue.

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    I mean there are upvotes and downvotes so I don’t know what you mean. But there isn’t a real incentive to have lots of upvotes on here. I’m not even sure why karma farming even is a thing on reddit. Maybe cause you can sell the account to whatever guy wants to buy it?

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      It’s because Reddit specifically optimizes the site so that upvotes give you the maximum dopamine and keep you hooked on it like a crack. Most corporate social media thrive on keeping their users hooked through cheap tricks.

      Lemmy Marxist Leninist Stalinist Maoist dev on the other hand doesn’t care or isn’t even able to do this because he doesn’t have an army of psychology experts to design it that way

      So no you don’t get anything out of karma but your brain thinks you do and every aspect of the site is built to maximise this. I hate it

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    I don’t get the karma hangup thing. Like… Lemmy does have Karma, but we just don’t culturally make it a priority.

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      The fact that it’s not designed to notify you every time you get 5 upvotes changes the game. Also low Karma accounts can post in Lemmy as opposed to Reddit.

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        This may not be an inherently bad thing given that low karma accounts tend to be trolls.

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          Good moderation eliminates trolls pretty quickly. Admins are incentivized to respond to users’ concerns rather than a profit motive. Some communities do have a minimum account age for certain actions, and some instances require a real email address and IP address to join/participate.

          Trolls are bots are rare on Lemmy. They are the norm on reddit.

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            The traffic on Reddit is massive for highly populated subreddits. And these subreddits that restrict low karma account activities aren’t doing it for any profit motive.

            I understand Lemmy isn’t really big enough for this to be a concern here.

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              If/when it does get big enough, what would be a good solution? It would be possible to do the same as Reddit

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          I always like forum setups where you had limited posting privileges until you’d had a couple of posts. Usually, they’d have an introduction category where you could post, and then comment on some other users’ posts, to get your post or reputation count high enough to unlock the rest of the board.

          Most Lemmy sites are small enough to have a local introduction community or other ‘free’ communities for newbies to dip their toes and acclimate. They’d be good places to centralize posts on how all of this works, too.

          Wouldn’t scale to large servers, though.

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              I call that negative karma. Low karma is 0-200. 200 because that is a limit that at least some subs would use to limit new accounts from posting.

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        low Karma accounts can post in Lemmy as opposed to Reddit

        But should they?

        One of the things I miss about reddit (and slashdot before that) was that if you got downvoted/downmodded a lot in a short amount of time, it would tell you to slow down (, cowboy). It helped to limit the damage when someone would go on a troll spree before they got banned.

        Some subreddits did implement a “you must have x karma to post” rule, or account age, which I wasn’t always a fan of, especially if it was karma within a certain subreddit. I understand the logic, that it was intended to make people read the community before posting, but I’m not sure if it hit the mark. But it did limit brand-new spam accounts, which are already here on lemmy.

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          I do like the slow down, cowboy think and I’m pretty sure reddit had that extremely early on as well

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          One of the things I miss about reddit (and slashdot before that) was that if you got downvoted/downmodded a lot in a short amount of time, it would tell you to slow down

          That was a horrible system. If you didn’t get positive karma on your very first post, your account was ruined because you could never dig yourself out.

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          I believe it’s an unhealthy habit, silencing unpopular people. Some of us low profile oddballs like to share our thoughts too

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          Some communities use a “santabot” to auto-ban accounts with more downvotes than upvotes. I’ve never seen it happen to someone who didn’t deserve it.

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            Unpopular opinions deserve to be silenced? Terrible idea. We already have way too much group think.

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              Hey, I’ve got unpopular opinions. No, it’s usually someone who is trolling.

              It’s far from perfect but of the people I’ve seen, they are usually so bad that they are damaging dialogue, not fostering it.

              Usually it’s eventually reversed if they are not a troll. People here are pretty decent and upvote most things.

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        Exactly - Reddit specifically and intentionally uses dark patterns to reinforce the importance of karma at every turn. The first interaction that someone has with Reddit is usually “you don’t have enough karma to post/comment/vote in this subreddit.” There are secret communities and public awards for high karma earners. There is a frontpage dedicated to rapid karma-earning posts. There is no disincentive for karma farming reposts, and subreddits are actually punished for reducing reposts. Karma is commoditized.

        Here the votes still matter, but the algorithm is public and users can and do sort in a variety of ways to discover new and relevant content. There is no single “front-page”

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          Unfortunately, on reddit - when subreddits restrict new posters or low karma commenters, they’re just trying to mitigate the impact of trolls and bots and people making new accounts. It’s not about being elitist.

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            The karma restrictions seems at first a good idea but can be bypassed very easily. The bots steal older popular posts or pictures and repost them.

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            Yeah because reddit (and Lemmy) are different to what a lot of people are used to. Users coming from things like tiktok or Facebook need to lurk a bit before posting so they get a feel for the culture.

            It is gatekeepy but its nessesary in my opinion. However I can see how the karma restrictions are super jarring for new users since it takes a while to get especially if your comments are always buried.

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              There used to be a saying on early image boards that have helped me more times than I can remember. “Lurk moar”, it has served me well. Even getting used to office culture. It helps to not make any faux pas that would make it harder to get along.

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            It’s not about being elitist.

            What’s the difference? They shouldn’t be doing it.

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              They will do it so long as not doing it greatly increases the amount of busywork, spam moderation and troll moderation.

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                They will do it so long as not doing it greatly increases the amount of busywork, spam moderation and troll moderation.

                Then they are unfit to be moderators because they are subtracting value from free discussions. I would much rather have to little moderation than lazy heavy handed moderation.

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    I wish that commenting would automatically upvote a post. It’s far too late to fix the use of an upvote as approval of subject discussion and not just an agree arrow, but I often…no, I almost always forget to upvote the initial topic even after leaving a few paragraphs. One would hope whatever algorithm is used also considers activity and number of comments in a rating or suggesting it to others.

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      There ate multiple algorithms, but I don’t think any of them account for both votes and comments… I might be wrong though.

      Tangent: the "scaled* algorithm, which normalises post ranks by the popularity of the community they’re posted to, is excellent. I recommend everyone use it as their default.

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      Yeah, I often just forget to upvote generally. Although this could lead to argumentative posters making troll posts, getting engagement and trending just because people reply to them.

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    Downvoted. Not because I think reddit is better, but because this is clearly a circklejerk post, and what’s more reddit than THAT???

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    Visible post and comment scores are still going to produce some of this behavior. You may not have a total karma but people will still get dopamine from seeing their posts getting upvotes and be reinforced in doing the same again. So the same mechanisms of social pressure and uniformisation are at play. The worst being when people delete their minority opinion comments because of the downvote pressure.

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        Genuinely curious, does that mean that, for you, getting downvoted gives you dopamine/a sense of accomplishment?

        Your above comment is in the negative when I’m making this comment. Does that feel good? Again, genuinely curious, hard to put a non-judgemental tone in writing.

        I can’t relate to that feeling, upvotes and downvotes to me show how much a community agrees or disagrees with what I’ve said. Either what I said isn’t right for the community I posted it in or maybe just a generally unpopular opinion if I’m getting downvotes. Might make me reflect but usually no big deal, I’m mostly here for the discussions, memes and current events. Outside of trolling I don’t really see how getting downvoted might be seen as a good thing by a poster.

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          Does that feel good?

          I just want the absolute value of my comment’s karma to be high. That means it has been read at least that many times.

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          If people down vote but are unable to provide a coherent rebuttal, that means that they are rage down voting.

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            Not necessarily, I usually downvote comments where there are enough rebuttal replies but I still disagree heavily with what’s being said. I am able to provide the Nth coherent rebuttal but I’m just either lazy or I don’t want to contribute to the spam.

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            I guess getting people to rage can feel validating, knowing that I’ve made someone rage quit a game feels satisfying for sure.

            I don’t personally feel that way about sites like Lemmy/Reddit/Social-media in general where things are more discussion and social-interaction based though. I guess for my kind of discourse goals, if I’ve made someone angry rather than laugh or understand my perspective, I’ve done a bad job.

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        Maybe. They might also mean you’re an idiot.

        Slashdot used to have a multidimensional voting system that would allow you to up or down vote something based on whether it was funny/insightful/correct, etc (can’t remember the dimension). I wish we had something like that. Sometimes it would be useful to mark a comment as “funny, but also wrong”

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          I had a discussion about using the Slashdot style voting rather than the Reddit style.

          It not only has the additional tag, it has the max “upvote” display limit of 5, and the display code will expand and promote the best rated comments, while hiding the garbage.

          I think comments on most forums would benefit from there being no ‘big upvote’ number to chase, as well as making the highest rated comments in a thread of say, 200, more obvious.

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            Right, thanks. Still a super useful system, IMO, though I’m sure better versions are possible.

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          Maybe. They might also mean you’re an idiot.

          If I am wrong sombody will generally probide a rebuttal tho but deff happens

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          Welcome: Quarkvotes
          Up, down, charm, strange, top, bottom

          Up/down = Usefulness or relation to topic
          Charm/strange = Agree/accurate or not
          Top/bottom = Love/Hate

          I vote you up-charm-top, btw

          • naught101@lemmy.world
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            26 days ago

            Not a bad set! I would add something related to “funny”.

            Also, separating agree (opinion) from accurate (factual) would be nice. But I guess you gotta keep it somewhat simple.

  • Bonus @lemm.ee
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    Can’t say I ever cared about karma. Lemmy reminds me of stripped down original reddit. Almost original. I remember when Reddit didn’t even have thumbnails. Back then, there was a thing called memepool. You didn’t know what you were going to get when you clicked on links on either site. There was a lot of fun unpredictable content and Reddit still meant you read it and we’re vouching for it. It was like this whole world of quality stuff from really smart people. Thumbnails and subreddits ushered in a series of trashings and lead to intense divisiveness reddit never recovered from. . .

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    1 month ago

    Ironically, this account’s bio and its history is screaming “I am a LLM posting a bunch of AI slop”.

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        1 month ago

        Bio: “Your Digital Workshop. We build websites and host them, as well as create content for your social media.”

        Posts: all on a bunch of different communities. All of them short, just one or two sentences.

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          1 month ago

          Short comments scream human to me more than long comments. Like that guy who never posts any comments shorter than three paragraphs all perfectly formatted and punctuated.

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            1 month ago

            Yeah, but the point is the consistency. It’s quite easy to prompt the model to just respond in always in the same way, and one could just say “you are supposed to talk like an average redditor. Keep it positive and short, and only elaborate if asked to.”

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                1. My reddit account (with the same username) is 19 years old. This one was created in June of 2023, from even before the blackout. OP’s account is 17 days old.
                2. If you really care about it, I can arrange ways to prove that I am a real person - just get my matrix id here, and we could chat there if you want. Do you think that OP would accept such a request.
                3. Are you forgetting that some weeks ago there was some idiot around here telling how he wanted to get some LLM bots to post content and figure out if others would notice? Oh, and it’s not that it was a fully automated bot. The idea was to just post the content, but on accounts where he was supervising and could write as well.

                I stand by my opinion. OP’s playing y’all for fools and now we are all arguing pointlessly.

          • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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            1 month ago

            Like that guy who never posts any comments shorter than three paragraphs all perfectly formatted and punctuated.

            'Sup.

            Yes, I realize this particular comment is somewhat self defeating and probably not a great example. But that’s not the point.

            The point is it’s apparently become my mission in life to annoy all the people on the internet who just check out any time they see a string of text that’s longer than 160 characters. I’ve been doing this since the early '90’s and you punks will never stop me.

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    1 month ago

    No, there’s karma. I’ve had more than a couple guys point out mine is negative.

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          1 month ago

          Boost for Lemmy lets you tag users. I gave this user the evil tag when they said something evil.

          • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
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            Wooo, that’s super cool. Do I have any tags? Tell me tell me. Make a pink one

            Tho these tags are shared yes? Imagine shared community built tags like some yelp reviews of people. Actually that’s a terrible idea so it will probably happen.

            Augmented Reality Community Driven People Scoring System.
            I don’t talk to anyone lower than 7 or who was marked by users as <opposite political party>

            Better yet. Automatically ban anyone with lower than 5

            Ugh too much coffee, too many stimulants

            Still it sucks so that’s probably the future. you can’t even opt out because even if you don’t have the AR glasses everyone else has.

            The only hope for the future is to be a hacker. Achieve a cozy AI-proof job as a security consultant and use the skills to enhance your life.

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        1 month ago

        I wonder what you thought was evil. Probably something banal, but something Lemmy hates.

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            That makes sense. I still hold the opinion that illegal immigrants should be deported, and Hamas is awful.

            Most people would agree with me, but most on Lemmy would not

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      For context for the people downvoting this: Lemmy doesn’t have karma, but Mbin does and it shows karma for Lemmy accounts too.

    • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      I think some apps will request all of your comment history and manually calculate karma but it’s not tracked by lemmy

    • FrostBlazer@lemm.ee
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      1 month ago

      With time we’ll get there! The more we slowly contribute to the niche topics, the more we’ll see these communities grow. I’m sure there are a sizable amount of people from Reddit looking for their niches on here to start growing more for them to fully hop over. I’ve got a good chunk of mine on Lemmy now, but still a handful of ones I haven’t found a comparable server for yet. If I understood running a server more I probably would have started a couple of my own for these topics.

      Is there anywhere on Lemmy people can request for servers to get started? I think that would be helpful to have since missing topics are some of the barriers of entry for some people.

    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 month ago

      Yeah, lemmy suffers a lot of from this. Too many posts that try to just make the front page, too many popular communities that dominate c/all. I’ve even had a friend quit over this.

      I genuinely miss communities about games, linguistics and niche hobbies - they just aren’t as popular as news/politics/general memes and that. I do try to post them as much as i can, but since they’re niche there’s only so much content you can find.

      I’d love for the frontpage to have some [optional, ofc] changes that encourage more of this type of content.

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        Why would anyone be on all? Even with reddit I I quit going to all probably 10 years ago…

        And don’t let my Lemmy age fool you, I drop my account every 6 to 8 months. It took my a lot longer to figure that out on reddit.

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            30 days ago

            You just click on communities and browse or search for ones to subscribe to.

            Although if you are a smaller instance you may not see as many if others haven’t branched out if I understand correctly.

        • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          For me it’s to find new content (i block most news/politics communities since they’re most of c/all) but there’s a lot of attention and eyes to be gained from all.

          But most of this, as i said; is buried by the generic popular content.

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        I think people really underestimate how much goes into getting these algorithms tuned on legacy social media to create this kind of niche engagement. Actually I think there’s almost a cynical instinct here on Lemmy where that kind of effort would be rejected if it was seriously discussed.

      • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        Pretty much any game or random hobby I’m on at the moment, I could count on finding a decently populated and active Subreddit. This is what’s missing from Lemmy.

          • JasSmith@sh.itjust.works
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            1 month ago

            Beehaw is quite toxic and for that reason, lemmy.world is not federated. I expect an angry swarm of people from Beehaw to send me death threats now to prove how untoxic they are.

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          maybe my definitions of healthy and active are extremely biased, but these communities have several days-old posts with low numbers of comments and limited reply threads. not only that, but there’s lots of news articles about the industry but not much stuff about GAMES, be that random reviews, discussions, or memes.

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            1 month ago

            what do you want to discuss post it, no one has a montery incentive to make this site work for you, if you want it to do you gotta do it yourself, commentings a good step, now make a post about what you want to discuss so theres a more recent post on that community about it

          • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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            Well it’s partly my bias too, because when I joined Lemmy about 3 years ago, lemmy.world didn’t exist yet and there were around a couple dozen new posts on All of Lemmy per day at the time.

            I’m just really grateful for how much we’ve grown as a site, even if we’re still hardly anywhere close to the scale of modern corporate social media. But imo it doesn’t have to be, I like this.

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          Ah i’m sorry, i should’ve specified; i meant communities for specific games. A lot of these games are too obscure to hvae a community for themselves, sadly :(

      • Pregnenolone@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, but in this day and age we’re going to grow with easy-to-consume content e.g. memes. Once growth hits a critical mass then the niche communities will come.

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      Blocked? Why? If you don’t want to see them why are you subscribed to them?

      I mean if you want niche communities you create them and subscribe to them right?

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        Browsing the global/all feed is one way to find new communities, and some people just like using it in general rather than defaulting to a subs-only view.

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          Seems like a not so good way to me, and thats why people are complaining.

          You can just look through the communities and sub to good ones.

          Maybe it would be helpful to use ALL with scaled sorting. It boosts smaller communities.

          I gave up using all on reddit a very long time ago, and Lemmy is basically the same… But at least on Lemmy you have scaled sorting to try and help.

          • BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world
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            Or just…browse all and then block communities you don’t want to see. Most stuff I block is furry shit. Nothing against it, I just don’t want to see it.

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            For what it’s worth I generally agree with you, and especially think the people who treat /all as their own personal feed are nuts, but nonetheless it’s something that some people do 🫠

            Everyone has their own preferences about how to use things!

      • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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        I just see them in the Everything feed, and if I don’t block them, they seem to dominate. I’m not actually against them, but I don’t want my feed to be all memes.