It was a got damn stunt, offc
This is more like, yet another PR flattery stunt, that Trump enjoyed in his first term too. Unclear that it means Tik Tok is going to help him get a 3rd term, or censor criticism of him.
Can you walk me through that? You think that Trump’s team coordinated with Biden to make him sign the ban for Trump’s benefit?
Do you not remember Trump being the driving force of banning it on his first term?
It the fact he is requiring them to give over a 50% stake of the company for unnamed us owners?
Yes, I remember that. The Israeli lobby has been pushing both parties to do it.
But how is the Trump team responsible for the Biden team following through and actually doing it?
Pre-election, it was a concern for all lawmakers that IDF soldiers showing off their genocide, or Palestinian sympathizers angry about genocide should not be able to embarass the US to young people. Congress voted to “force sale” of TikTok, and Biden signed law many months ago. Minuchin/Zionist groups offered to buy Tik Tok without the algorithm just so they could fully complete the zionist monopoly of news/media through censorship power. After the election, zionist supremacism media exposure doesn’t matter anymore. US/Israel gets to do what they want to do, and explicit Trump/GOP supporters do not hand wring over Islamophobia.
Biden did say after SCC ruling, that he would not enforce anything, and Apple/Google could have avoided removing from app stores. But Tik Tok went dark anyway, with specific message, imploring glorious new leader’s “progressiveness” on not hating Americans for the complete BS that was the ban fiasco. Even if bipartisan zionist congress voted for ban, with explicit justification that Israel needs to be given a better image to young people, it is flattery to Trump to make this all balmed on dark Brandon.
So again, Biden made an unforced error. How did the Trump team make him do it?
Tik Tok is just flattering Trump by saying he will save the US from Biden. The SCC case decided just last Friday, with Biden promissing not to enforce it, were events that unfolded by their own inertia. Tik Tok users by definition not wanting the ban, is the political probletunity that Tik Tok can deliver to Trump as a win for him, through flattery. It’s only an error, with no political gains, after election is decided to zionist glee.
All Trump’s order does is protect TikTok from the fines and liability. If Biden didn’t intend to enforce, he could’ve done the same. He didn’t.
Because they play for the same team
Yep. You’re not wrong.
I understanding is that Biden didn’t actually sign the binding to law.
Then you’re not informed.
What a useful and helpful comment thank you for contributing
The AP is supposed to be a neutral source, but they are decidedly right leaning.
There is clear, relevant reporting to be done on how odd the structure of all this is and that the app’s self imposed shutdown message specifically praised trump, by name. They buried a photo of it, but I don’t see direct text in the article discussing that. They also don’t mention the fact that the CEO had been privately meeting with trump recently.
They say Biden had a part in the ban, though he said publicly he would not enforce it - what matters there, that AP doesn’t mention, is that the republicans held humanitarian aide to Ukraine hostage back in April, saying they’d block unless the tick tok ban was passed. Laying the groundwork for this hollow attempt to “blame Biden” and position trump as a solution (to a problem he instigated and that republican think tanks engineered).
They do say the CEO will attend and have a “prime seating location” but not clarifying that the seats he’ll be in are typically reserved for living past US presidents.
Fucking joke.
They say Biden had a part in the ban, though he said publicly he would not enforce it - what matters there, that AP doesn’t mention, is that the republicans hello humanitarian aide to Ukraine hostage back in April, saying they’d block unless the rock you ban was passed. Laying the groundwork for this hollow attempt to “blame Biden” and position trunk as a solution (to a problem he instigated and that republican think tanks engineered).
You’re making an important point here, but it’s somewhat undermined by the fact that your rogue auto[in]correct needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot.
Ha, wonderful! Corrected, thanks for pointing that out.
Note: I had to manually correct the auto"correct" for just about every word on that small sentence above (and in this note)
So your defense of Biden signing the ban is that he had to because it was tied to arming far-right Nazis in Europe? And you think this is a good argument?
Oh boy…
Trump hasn’t even become president yet, and already they’re giving him praises.
Republicans are always president and can do things like negotiate the release of hostages. They just let democrats pretend sometimes.
In fairness even the Democrats are Republicans these days.
Glares at Fetterman
Note that the law does not prohibit TikTok from operating. It prohibits companies like Google and Apple from distributing it, and according to this article, they are in fact not distributing it.
Even as TikTok was flickering back on, it remained unavailable for download in Apple and Google’s app stores.
TikTok shut off voluntarily and that appears to have been an excellent PR move, but we won’t know for certain until Trump does or doesn’t do something about it in the next few days.
TikTok may trust Trump but Apple and Google are much better off acting like the law is in force and could be used against them.
TikTok also was and still is acting like the law is in force - the law does not require it to shut off. They aren’t taking any legal risk.
Sec. 2) This division prohibits distributing, maintaining, updating, or providing internet hosting services for a foreign adversary controlled application (e.g., TikTok).
The “providing internet hosting services” seems like it could be an issue there
The law actually bans “providing internet hosting services to enable the distribution, maintenance, or updating of such foreign adversary controlled application for users within the land or maritime borders of the United States.”
If Google and Apple aren’t distributing, maintaining, or updating TikTok then it follows that nobody is providing internet hosting services enabling distribution, maintenance, or updating of TikTok.
Wouldn’t the ISP be liable?
Only if they hosted someone who distributed the app or update. Which nobody is doing.
It was a publicity stunt. That’s manipulative as fuck. You can add them to the list of businesses in Trump’s pocket.
Call me crazy but this feels all like a plan to push the Maga movement, first the “bad democrats” take away the “lovely” tiktok, then “good” trump brings back the beloved “noncensorship” tiktok because he “loves” freedom of speech or smth.
But trump is the one who started the movement to ban it when he was president the first time!
No one will remember that since it happened prior to last week.
STOP BEING RIGHT!!!
Hi my name is Fred the goldfish
HEY IT’S FRED!!!
Remember that? Remember Fred? Ah, of coarse not. You have the memory of a goldfish…
Wasn’t there a game called freddy fish as a child hood education game?
It’s where I learnt what a sea Eneneme was.
Yeah this.
I don’t really think that’s the case. I mean, the democrats are idiots, sure, but why would they take part in the scheme when they know Trumps followers wanna line them up against the wall?
He literally was the president at the time and he was the one that pushed for the ban. It’s a matter of public record, not that that really matters anymore.
Because the Democrat politicians hold all the same stocks as the Republicans
Because the Republicans tied aid to Ukraine to the Tik Tok ban. Democrats were forced to vote for it to continue to prevent the fall of a country fighting off an invasion.
I don’t know why the Dems keep shooting themselves in the foot to further Republican goals but they seem to be pretty good at it.
Iranian hostages anyone? Look how trump saved the day. He gives them their bread and circuses.
That’s totally not fishy at all
Ah you pussies. Come on, show them you’re serious. Go dark again. Show them you really mean it and do the rest of the territories too. Forever.
The only way his ban evasion will work is if they find a buyer in 90 days
Uhhh, Trump is literally the executive.
He just commands the FCC or other authorities to ignore TikTok. He can extend this ban evasion for all 4 years if he wants.
Congress and Supreme Court do not control the executive powers. The President does.
Does the FCC have the discretion to do that after Chevron, I wonder?
Doesn’t matter; SCOTUS is controlled by “unitary executive theory” nutjobs now. The FCC can do whatever Trump wants it to do; no more, no less.
Or Trump keeps extending it or the newly formed Congress rolls back the law or the corrupt Supreme Court changes its mind or or or.
They entire US government is a game of oligarchic Calvinball.
Tomorrow Trump becomes the commander in cheif of the executive branch, the branch explicitly in charge of enforcing the law. The concept of salutary neglect is not new to America, and I don’t think much could stop him if he decided to simply not enforce the law as written. As you point out, it would not be the first time the country played by it’s own rules made up on the spot.
As long as he can make money off of tiktok (either through videos or bribes) he’ll keep extending it.
The decomcrats are fucking morons for allowing Trump to take credit for this. This was the obvious outcome and was easily preventable.
I dunno if app stores are gonna bring it back though.
The law stipulates like, ridiculously massive (seriously like $5k PER USER) fines for hosting it. I dunno if a legally-dubious pinky promise from Trump will be enough for them.
That’s only really a problem for iOS users though. For Android users, you can just load the APK onto the phone and go.
GOOD! I’m looking Forward to Trump RESTORING this App that he said was CHYNESE SPYWARE being used to Hurt Americans!
I mean it is just so so dumb. Have people really got that short term memory that no one remembers who pushed for this in the first place?!
Yes.
I’m way more interested in the reactions of Google, Apple, Oracle, and the dozens of other corporations ByteDance depends on.
The “90-day extension” Trump keeps talking about has no basis in law except to conclude an in-process divestment, which currently doesn’t exist. He can order the law not to be enforced, but you’re still breaking the law. It’ll interesting to see if those companies are willing to along with an executive order their counsel knows is illegal or are willing to knowingly break the law under the promise they won’t be prosecuted (for now).
edit: IANAL
has no basis in law
Wikipedia says, with a couple references:
The president may grant a one-time extension of the divestiture deadline by as long as 90 days if a path to a qualified divestiture has been identified, “significant” progress has been made to executing the divestiture, and legally binding agreements for facilitating the divestiture are in place.
So I think he can do it.
as long as 90 days if a path to a qualified divestiture has been identified, “significant” progress has been made to executing the divestiture, and legally binding agreements for facilitating the divestiture are in place.
My point is that no path has been identified, no progress has been made, and nothing is in place.
Point taken, but I’m just going to presume that all that will be declared satisfied in the EO in some token form or another.
I don’t think that it can just be declared satisfied, though. I imagine Google and Apple’s obscenely top-shelf representation will be like, “this has about this much legal merit”:
But who knows! :)
I mean, they can get away with it. They own the government, if the next president threw a fit about them going along with something that they knew was illegal because Trump was OK with it, do you think their lawyers wouldn’t be able to make it go away for a meager fine that’s 0.001% of their annual revenue?
I’m curious whether “can probably get away with it” is enough for them. And whether they’ll take the risk for no reward whatsoever in the case of Apple and Google.
Marvel Snap is still down. Like the 1980s we nerds don’t matter.
ETA: As of 11:16pm, PST, 2025-01-20, Snap’s been up for a few hours but it’s still not accessible on the Apple Store or Google Play.
The fix is in, and TikTok is now just another implement in Trump and Elon’s disinformation machine. Crazy times, our country is literally being run by the top social media platforms.
Yes, before this it was run by regular media platforms.
Social media is way more efficient though. Like, almost incomparable.
Goebbels would be proud.
Key word being “literally”
Did you do your part to vote against Trump?