• SavvyWolf@pawb.social
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    Counterpoint: If you’re working from home it might be the only people contact you get for days.

    Supposedly talking to people and touching grass is healthy.

    • fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
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      My fear of working full-remote. I mean I got enough friends, but still that’s significant less social time, when not being in something like a coworking space… Although other benefits are really tempting (like 2 to 3 times the salary)

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    the more i learn about software development, the more i feel I’ve dodged a bullet by changing my major to electrical engineering.

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      Well, if you learn about software development from reddit and Lemmy, that’s one thing. Not always representative of the real world.

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        its the things I hear from real software developers that concern me:

        • You will spend your entire career chasing trends.
        • The market is volatile. People are constantly getting abruptly laid off. SD has never been very stable, so you should plan on getting a new job every few years.
        • Software companies are constantly looking for ways to make SD easier. As a result, your value will decrease over time, in preference for bootcampers and 2 year degree graduates.
        • Nobody listens to developers. Your manager’s beliefs about SD come entirely from consultants, magazines, and Elon Musk tweets.
        • Nobody cares about quality software. If you take the time to make your code efficient and lightweight, all your manager sees is you taking longer to make something than your peers. After all, we can just raise hardware requirements if the software is slow.
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          • You will spend your entire career chasing trends.

          Depends on the language, that’s mostly a JavaScript/typescript issue.

          • The market is volatile. People are constantly getting abruptly laid off. SD has never been very stable, so you should plan on getting a new job every few years.

          Depends on the country, where I’m from there has been very few layoffs.

          • Software companies are constantly looking for ways to make SD easier. As a result, your value will decrease over time, in preference for bootcampers and 2 year degree graduates.

          Not sure what to say, I haven’t felt my value decrease. All I see are bubbles saying they will replace me… and then they burst.

          Nobody listens to developers. Your manager’s beliefs about SD come entirely from consultants, magazines, and Elon Musk tweets.

          Agree but that’s more of an engineering wide problem, specially when you get managers with very few engineering experience. Take the Apollo landings as an opposite example: great managers that were great engineers.

          • Nobody cares about quality software. If you take the time to make your code efficient and lightweight, all your manager sees is you taking longer to make something than your peers. After all, we can just raise hardware requirements if the software is slow.

          This is a bit too generic to argue against. You can get that in electrical engineering no? If you take more time designing that PCB because you want to better place the components to improve heat dissipation, will your manager care in the end?

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    My boss doesn’t do meetings. Every once in a while he approves my vacation request and I get notified it’s approved. Sounds better than it is, but it is better than pointless daily meetings. Adult daycare crap.

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    Most standups are bad because they’re not used as a quick collaboration tool, they’re used as a demonstration to prove you’re working, and then the least productive people talk the most because they’re the most desperate to prove they’re working.

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    The purpose of stand up is to not listen to anything and say a sentence that no one listens to. It’s like a Buddhist meditation.

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      lol I hope your standups are not actually like this! The purpose is to, as a team, plan what the team will do today to achieve the Sprint goal

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        I’m not actually a programmer (/engineer) I’m just a hobbyist. I work in supply chain, have worked at 4 companies in 8 years - all had stand ups, all of them are like this.

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      Yeah - it’s an art to find the perfect mix between “sounds complicated enough that they zone out”, “sounds like stuff gets done” and “not making people ask if you need help with that”.

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    If this actually rings true, there’s something pretty wrong in your team.

    Stand up should be a quick and uncontroversial meeting talking about what you’ve done, what you’ll do and anything you need help with, plus maybe a couple of minutes of small talk before you start.

    • Max-P@lemmy.max-p.me
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      You mean you’re not actually supposed to spend 2 hours daily unfucking everyone’s shit during the standup turn by turn?

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        We waste the two hours doing code reviews that only three people actually need to be present for, I always appreciate the chance to zone out and do something else for a big part of the day. Follow that with lunch and I’ve just done half a day’s work by watching TV

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      My team does this for the first ~15 minutes and then we move to “group think” for any tough problems or “water cooler chat” for the remaining 15. You’re allowed to leave if it’s just water cooler chat, so I really like it

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        That sounds about 25 mins longer than i’m willing to call a standup.

        if it’s not wrapped up within 10 mins of the scheduled start time something has gone horribly wrong