That is a flaw. Flatpak is great where it works but Flatpak doesn’t solve all problems, neither does any one solution except os level modification. It can be a last resort by it should be a last resort that works. The layering system could be put together such that you don’t get side effects of installing packages like that. It might be tough to fix but that doesn’t make it not a flaw.

Once you fire up a webpage it’ll just dump garbage all over the couch.

It isn’t, though. Package layering modifies the install itself. See: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/getting-started/#_flatpak_command_line

The big problem with the way ostree works is that installing things has side effects. Every item you install with ostree makes all future items slower to install, including regular os updates. This is a significant flaw in the way they designed it and really makes immutable oses less attractive.

Got any recommendations?

Immutable is fantastic in theory. Where it falls apart is having to basically rebuild the whole distro every time you want to make a change. It should be there your base distro is immutable, then any extra changes go on an additional mutable layer but that would be difficult to set up. (You’d need a package manager like Nixos or something.)

There are hundreds of Linux developers, including companies like Red Hat, Intel, IBM, Google, and more. You want all these people to up and move to… where? Somewhere. Russia, or a Russian ally presumably but hell if i know. Anyway you want them all to move so a handful of people working for Russian weapons manufacturing companies can keep maintaining pieces of the Linux kernel?

This is obviously a non-serious suggestion.

Switzerland is currently sanctioning Russia. Let me say that again to be clear: moving to Switzerland, the most neutral country in the world, will not prevent you from having to abide by sanctions against Russia.

“A lot of companies” completely left the sphere of influence of basically any country except Russia? Doubt.

I know the company i work for has to take similar steps when the sanctions went into effect, for example. Same as almost everyone.

I think it’s extremely clear what’s happening and why and tone policing them about it is not helpful.

So you realize they have no choice and couldn’t have done any differently but you’re still irrationally upset about it so you decided to become the tone police?

Funny fucking thing to say considering why Russia is under sanction.

This isn’t a real comment, is it?

Anyway, the Linux kernel team are not about to fight the US government, particularly not to defend Russia. If you’re so concerned about warmongering then leave Russia. Solves all the problems here. You don’t gotta go to the US, even.

I feel a little bad encouraging the what-about-ism here but: Genocide actually does not have majority support in the US. Most polls show a majority of the public opposes genocide and what Israel is doing right now.

It’s a minority that supports it.

With that said, that’s not really related to the situation with the Linux kernel developers.

It’s blatantly obvious and non-controversial what they’re doing. That’s why.

I mean, if you’re in a STEM field you really should understand how sanctions work because they matter to your work and, thus, to you.

I don’t want to encourage paranoia here but “off” does not mean “off”. Modern phones are almost never actually “powered down”. If you’re paranoid, turning your phone off is not enough. Leave it behind.

(Also a gap in your phone’s location history can also be used against you, fwiw.)

“The fourth amendment means what we say it means” – SCOTUS, probably.

It’s a minor, technical change to the license. It’s not a change we should be supporting but it doesn’t matter much. The real concerning thing is that this may signal a shift away from focusing on the value to the user.

No, technically they already are SaaS company. That’s mostly how they make their money.

Also it should be noted “no longer open source” doesn’t mean they’ve done a “our code is now closed and all your passwords are ours” rug pull like some other corporations. This is a technical concern with the license and it no longer meets proper FOSS standards (in other words, it has a restriction on it now that you wouldn’t see in, for example, the GPL).

So by and large the change is very minimal, the code is still available, it’s still the best option. However, this does matter. It may be a sign of the company changing directions. It’s something they should get pushback about.

Honestly, it’s Bitwarden right now. This move signals their intent to change that, though.