As a german: fuck germany. corrupt pieces of shit.

i dont doubt that. atleast that its your daily life. but a lot of stuff in my daily life simply is an edge case. nothing wrong about it. beeing on lemmy is all in all an edge case. i wish it wouldnt be. but in fact i have met so far only a single guy who even knew what reddit is in rl. let alone lemmy. with that in mind i want to go back to the phone with 32gb of ram but with a midspec 5 year old soc. yes, i can imagine someone which can make use of that configuration. it still is a weird ass config. case in point; every other hardware config of a popular current phones. so i dont really know whats your point with your screenshot and i dont know how i dismiss your experience. like wtf

i fucking mentioned edge cases in my first post

so, running 50+ instances of different programs at the same time is your argument why a phone needs 32gigs of ram. thanks for the discussion dear internet person. especially after i stated several hours ago there might be edge cases.

lmao. so you cant give me reason and just post some memes instead. fair enough. idgf. its a cool device. having 32gb of RAM is fucking rad on a phone. but its stupid. its an inbalenced configuration with that weak ass soc. that was my whole point. but you couldnt even prove your point on an academic level.

it is. i firmly state: fuck apple. now give me a single reason why an underpowered linux device needs 32gb.

fair enough, maybe i’m stupid(which i am) but give me a usecase for 32gb of ram. completly disregarding the fact that this thing is a phone. Using it as an desktop device via an usb-c hub. when do you need 32gb of ram involving software which isnt bottlenecked by a 5 year old mobile chip? My 12 core AMD 3900X and my 5800X3d ramp up their cooling fans before my RAM gets maxed out with eg Firefox. C’mon i already admitted that there are edge cases. But this configuration is weird man. Especially considering that linux in itself isnt a ram hog in general.

fair, but we’re still talking about 32 frigging GB of ram in a phone. not that it should count as a best practice baseline but apple sells 16gb laptops as the entry point and tbf at the moment its just enough and their performance is sitting in a completly different league

I dont need a laptop right now but damn this thing is sexy. Its been a long time since hardware gave me that “do want” itch even though i dont need it. Ryzen would have been great but even with an Intel SOC this thing is a compelling package.

Interesting, didnt know about the current state of eMMC. That would be certainly useable if its the new stuff.

Regarding the ram: Yeah, a lot of ram isnt bad. But it also costs money and i dont feel like that amount of ram in combination with the rest of the hardware is too beneficial. Maybe i lack the creativity but i dont see applications where you need that much of ram and wont be bottlenecked by that 5 year old mid tier mobile SOC. Like my desktop gaming rig has 32gb of ram and current flagship phones still use sometimes just 12gb and go up to 24gb in very rare cases. 32gb just feel imbalenced with the rest of the hardware.

This feels off. Just the hardware configuration doesnt make any sense. The soc will be over 5 years old when this thing releases. Those four a76 cores @ 2,4 Ghz wont wow you with their performance and would be a downgrade compared to a flagship with a SD865 released 5 years ago. Which is alright by its own tbh. But why the fuck combine it with 32gb of ram? Thats just excessive and apart from hyper specific edge cases this just doesnt make any sense. Especially when looking at the eMMC storage. Personally i already find UFS 3.1 painfully slow when it comes to desktopish usecases sometimes. But eMMC is just pure ass.

This is like buying a pre built with a 12100f with 128gb of ram and only harddrives as storage. Like there is probably a really small market for that. But for everybody else it would be just such a bad choice.

show me that magic llm which doenst infringe the copyright of nearly everybody, which doesnt have an unprecedentet impact on the enviroment to train and run, which wont be used to cut of people from their income, which isnt owned by technocratic billionaire assholes, which isnt peddled and promoted by fascist goverments, which doesnt halluzinate, which isnt a blackbox, which actually works and doesnt fail at the simplest tasks sometimes, which doesnt infringe my privacy(allegedly tbf, but you know). the list goes on.

sure, sure technology itself isnt evil. but thats not a hill i want to die on in case of llms. they’re problematic on so many levels. full stop. i dont think its a naive take to have some skepticism against this clusterfuck. potentially some technologies could make the world a better place. but llms dont fit into this category.

yeah, usb 2.0 is still super common and for a lot of people this probably isnt even an issue tbf. but for me it is. i actually connect my phones via usb to other devices quite often. i wont buy an usb 2.0 phone ever again. my last two phones had usb 3.0 and gsmarenas phonefinder lists 433 other devices: https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nUSBType=2

Why not both?

800€ flagship phone with fucking USB 2.0 in 2025. lmao

I was upset at my Huawei P9 only having USB 2.0 and that was 9 years ago.

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Sweet, this was one of the pain points with my pixel. Just felt so much more clunky than it needed to be.

I ran geekbench on my pixel 7 with both the stable and beta branch of grapheneos. No difference between the branches. Didnt see any performance numbers like in the article. It scored higher than run to run variance compared to the average geekbench presents though.

and thats why i finally gave up two years ago and bought a pixel and installed grapheneOS. also i just dont use shitty apps anymore. its a good life

The stagnant ram/storage situation weirds me out. Dont get me wrong 6/8GB ram and 128GB rom served, serves and will serve me well. But damn i bought a phone in 2019 for 300€ with the same specs and 6 years later i’m expected to pay almost double the price for the same. Doesnt make any sense to me from a consumer perspective. Yeah the SOC is faster, the cameras a bit better and the screen gets brighter. But there is no reason for me to upgrade unless support ends for my current phone or it just breaks.

The only compelling feature i see in the forseeable future is the whole desktopmode and virtualization thing. If done competently i would pay for that since i dabbled with the idea a lot in the last few years. It just was shit from the software stack standpoint. But then give me 12-16gb of ram and atleast 512gb of storage for lets say 600€ or less.

Oh yeah, this article was about gemini ai. Well i dont give a shit.