Even more prescription drugs, what a surprise. How about trying to find and solve the root of the problems. Lower stress levels, affordable housing, free education and healthcare… Can’t make enough money or slaves from that tho, so just create more pill zombies.
We realised administering medication without addressing these broader psychosocial needs would be failing in our duty of care.
So our study evolved to include a comprehensive support model, combining pharmacotherapy with trauma-informed clinical counselling, proactively following up participants, 24-hour crisis support, helping the men navigate support services and partner safety planning.
What you’re describing would no doubt improve matters.
But fundamentally, we are shirking around a ground truth that the kind of things that stir in male biology aren’t terribly useful in today’s modern world; men biologically need to feel useful in their physicality, to have something to protect and something to provide for.
The terrifying slide towards all the bullshit hyper masculinity or Jordan Peterson style “self improvement” is all a reaction to the fact that, with where we are heading, many of those traits can’t find a natural home in how we’ve structured the world.
There is a balance to be struck here. Yes, solve the root cause of stress and depression, but there are some things that can be solved by medication. It is helpful for a lot of people with ADHD for example.
I feel you, but yet again you need to take pills. I don’t have adhd, that I know of, so I might sound stupid. But, what if instead of taking medication, there would be jobs/functions that actually play into your adhd. Again I’m probaly sounding ignorant. Is the condition the problem, or is the lack of environments that can utilize adhd the problem? Is adhd actually a defunct? Or have we been conditioned to think that because of rigid structures? I like to think of Waldof Schools as an environment where one with adhd could thrive better than in traditional schools. I’d rather find a fitting environment than relying on drugging people up. Reality is not that simple tho…just food for thought.
I understand what you mean, but like… Imagine a pill that lets you feel like a person. That’s vyvanse (lisdexamphetamine) for me. My psychiatrist advised me against taking it every day to avoid building up a tolerance, so I don’t take it on the weekends and I hate it because I want to feel like a person all the time, not just to get work done. Like yes the world can be more accommodating to to adhd but medicine that makes you feel better isn’t something you need to seek to avoid. t’s kind of like saying “wow it sucks to have to use crutches to get around on my broken leg” so you just toss them away and limp painfully around on it. Like sure it sucks that you need em but having them is immensely preferable. It’s not a perfect solution, it has aide effects, but it’s like it regrows the mental equivalent of a limb for me.
Even more prescription drugs, what a surprise. How about trying to find and solve the root of the problems. Lower stress levels, affordable housing, free education and healthcare… Can’t make enough money or slaves from that tho, so just create more pill zombies.
What you’re describing would no doubt improve matters.
But fundamentally, we are shirking around a ground truth that the kind of things that stir in male biology aren’t terribly useful in today’s modern world; men biologically need to feel useful in their physicality, to have something to protect and something to provide for.
The terrifying slide towards all the bullshit hyper masculinity or Jordan Peterson style “self improvement” is all a reaction to the fact that, with where we are heading, many of those traits can’t find a natural home in how we’ve structured the world.
There is a balance to be struck here. Yes, solve the root cause of stress and depression, but there are some things that can be solved by medication. It is helpful for a lot of people with ADHD for example.
I feel you, but yet again you need to take pills. I don’t have adhd, that I know of, so I might sound stupid. But, what if instead of taking medication, there would be jobs/functions that actually play into your adhd. Again I’m probaly sounding ignorant. Is the condition the problem, or is the lack of environments that can utilize adhd the problem? Is adhd actually a defunct? Or have we been conditioned to think that because of rigid structures? I like to think of Waldof Schools as an environment where one with adhd could thrive better than in traditional schools. I’d rather find a fitting environment than relying on drugging people up. Reality is not that simple tho…just food for thought.
I understand what you mean, but like… Imagine a pill that lets you feel like a person. That’s vyvanse (lisdexamphetamine) for me. My psychiatrist advised me against taking it every day to avoid building up a tolerance, so I don’t take it on the weekends and I hate it because I want to feel like a person all the time, not just to get work done. Like yes the world can be more accommodating to to adhd but medicine that makes you feel better isn’t something you need to seek to avoid. t’s kind of like saying “wow it sucks to have to use crutches to get around on my broken leg” so you just toss them away and limp painfully around on it. Like sure it sucks that you need em but having them is immensely preferable. It’s not a perfect solution, it has aide effects, but it’s like it regrows the mental equivalent of a limb for me.
Adhd is completely unrelated for this post.
The comment I was responding to was more generic than the article.
Not only that, but medication can usually make therapy more approachable and impactful.
Sort of like nature and nurture. You need both.
…which isn’t the condition being discussed.
I hear medication is also useful for malaria.
The comment I was responding to was more generic than the article.