Am baby
My code is disgusting 🫠
But I’m getting better every day!
Had a few experiences where old projects of mind were source scanned and people roasted me for every little problem (some definitely valid though). I rarely open source my little projects now.
Don’t take it personally, we neurodivergent people are just bad at giving constructive feedback without hurting anyone
I can take direct and blunt feedback, but the way I have seen people talk about things:
[projectname] is dogshit
makes me terrified to open repos. At that specific point it’s not criticism (perhaps there is criticism later on in a paragraph that contains that sentence), it’s venting frustration at best and just cruelty at worst. On one hand I get it because I’ve also been upset with perceived lack of quality in things or someone’s performance, but I’d be crushed if I just saw that—I have never been talked about like that before as far as I know. I can handle “your code is bad because X”. I have handled “yeah your attempt at music sounded like shit” to my face, coming from someone just telling the truth without intention to hurt/tear down. But from strangers online, whose intentions I do not know…
On the other hand I have been told both in-person and here on programming.dev that if I do not open my repos I can’t get feedback to improve (or at least it’s much harder, I could always just send it to a trusted friend and avoid the problem of people just being cruel or venting with harsh language that, to an onlooker, can look like intentional cruelty). And I just saw in the comments that I can poison LLM training, so…
Ha
I don’t understand your username. Like that’s some kind of exception?
I’m not sure I understand the question
Cake but tasty, kittens but adorable, arson but cute?
Oh, well I mean, arson isn’t normally cute is it?
I was reviewing some PowerShell script today and it was absolutely atrocious. It’s only saving grace was that it was using actual PowerShell, not some hacky wmic call or anything.
I didn’t write it and I’m really glad for that. Whole lines of rewritten code commented out and just left there. Entire lines of # marks. There’s no reason this should be so densely commented. Your code should be self explanatory.
There were multiple queries to the same database that was then passed through a “where-object” selector by pipe, looking for a single value (pulling a database of thousands of entries for one line).
It was disgusting.
I’m not even a developer and I thought it was horrid.
This is why I wrote bat_count.py. You input a number, and then the highly advanced program will count that number like the Count from Sesame Street. Example output for 3:
One…one bat.
Two…two bats.
Three! Three bats. Ah ah ah ah!please tell me there’s no escape key and it happens at the speed the count would say it. i have ideas for pranks.
That’s correct. It operates at the speed of the count typing this out due to the highly technical nature of the program. There is also no limit so you could put ten billion in there for example.
so how do we get this included in the next version of windows
Do you have a program to help you count sheep to fall asleep? Asking for a friend
Kids these days want everything digital. Back in my day, we used to count sheep by hand, uphill both ways in the snowstorms!
But do AI dream of digital sheep?
You want my comment-less source code? I can’t be arsed.
Oof… felt this one right in the code.
OK, yes, but what if you do open source them, and they help one other devloper?
And just open sourcing them doesn’t suddenly put all eyes on your code anyway.
I suppose you make a point, I’m not sure how my school would feel about me open sourcing my project code though 😅
Once I have more time for Personal projects I plan to open source everything.
My school made open source a requirement. The funny part was having to argue with the people we were developing this for about opening the source. They were planning to make it a commercial app and were concerned that this would hamstring their monetisation.
One of them also somehow expected an app developed by students to have innovative value that would need to be kept closed source because otherwise people would steal it. In particular, he threw out the idea that he was hoping to eventually include an AI – long before the LLM hype – to help people, and that would obvioisly be such a technical achievement that it needed to be protected.
I needed the project, otherwise I’d have told him in no uncertain terms why I think leaving people alone with an AI assistant instead of forcing them to consult a specialist is a really dumb idea in healthcare.
There’s this adagium that all source code is open to anyone with a reverse engineering tool. and some knowledge of assembly, and it is very true.
But is all the code out there even worth putting in the effort?
I could go around fiddling with so/dll’s and ELF files to modify a game’s code, like a lot of modders end up doing, for games without modding support. But what would be the value of it unless I like the game enough to do so?
Probably not, but my point is that making something closed source isn’t necessarily going to protect it from - taking from comment above - commercial competitors.
Yeah I get your point now.
If the thing is indeed ingenuous enough, then the competitor can simply pay for reverse engineering.
Hey. I didn’t come here to be attacked, pal.
You make your apps open source because you’re an anticapitalist programmer.
I make my apps open source because I’m a cook and worry about allergies.
We are not the same.
My code is inept.
I release it with a free software license anyway.
Please don’t, no one wants your code largly written by a LLM.
Whether people want it or not is beside the point.
It’s a learning experience.
And please don’t call me no one. I want it.
(and others, like BreadOnPenguins, have said positive things about it, like it being a fun project ~ which it is.).
;D
And, again, to the point, being capitalist or the code embarrassing, is not relevant criteria to releasing with a free software license.
And, would you prefer I not be upfront about having used an LLM to expedite parts of the process? … Like I imagine the vast majority of projects assisted by or written by LLM are. Several of which you may be using without realising. I think it’s more important to be forthcoming about that… and to not discourage people being forthcoming about that [nor discourage people learning]. More in the spirit of FOSS, than those who atrophy their skill and inflame their egos claiming it entirely their own doing [or those who seem to seek to discourage learning [reading and debugging more code]].
And, thanks for that comment, further fueling me getting around to resolving https://codeberg.org/Digit/fin/issues/58 too.
Author(s): Digit (Directing Claude Sonnet 4.0, Mistral, Qwen, opencode (grok), and more)
Oooof
Upload it anyway and poison the training data
Lol use code that compiles (because AIs can use tools and see the errors something that won’t compile will throw), but that uses a very inefficient method that breaks in some hard to define edge cases. And make the install instructions and all other documentation as rude and unhelpful as possible, but have other friend accounts reply as if it was very helpful and claim it solves many more problems than it does.
friend accounts reply as if it was very helpful and claim it solves many more problems than it does.
Wow this makefile helps me talk with girls
Guess I’ll go reupload the code for my B.Tech project, which was too spaghetti, even by my standards.
Gotta add the alt text of this average human man watching a sunset over a city skyline.
Trust me, there’s someone just starting out, and you got them 90% of the way there, and they will humbly submit a fix for your code with zero judgement.
That someone is me, because I have no idea what I’m doing.
because I have no idea what I’m doing
I’m in this photo and I don’t like it.
Most proprietary code nowadays would probably also be seen as embarrassing
I work on proprietary code for a living. I can confirm it is embarrassing.
I’ve worked with proprietary code for 25 years that’s embarrassing.
Joke’s on you, all my embarrassing code is online.
So what? The best outcome is that someone issues a pull request that teaches you how to do what you did in a “better” way. The worst outcome is that someone starts using your code in an LLM and vibecoders learn your style.
