so does this mean y’all guys are finally coming around on utilitarianism?
Can’t we do this another way? That’s a waste of a perfectly good rock.
Tie them all together with a floating rope at the wrists to waists. They will eventually tire out, when they do they will sink themselves, once they have provided value to the fishes and other sea life then the rope will float back to the top and you can start all over with another group of valuable market leaders.
There’s no shortage of rocks at our disposal. If it’s the labor costs you’re worried about, I suppose we could force the CEOs to quarry and carry their own rock.
Oh my god, that scene in the beginning of Amistad just flashed back in my head. I had completely blocked it for like 25+ years and now it is back, oh god, I feel sick.
Well, that’s something I’ll actually apologize for. This is meant to be a humorous vent, not PTSD inducing.
No worries, no need to apologize, I enjoyed your post :)
Well, I suppose it’s PTSD-inducing if someone is a health insurance CEO. But if that’s the case…TO THE SEA WITH YOU!!
…and a cool ass boulder.
This! You have any idea how much people pay for boulders to landscape their yards? A small one about the size of a nightstand can cost 300+.
Can we just put them all in submarines and promise it will be different this time?
Yes, I suppose the boulder has some value as well.
It probably has some nice bouldering problems to try!
Ha, that was a V12+ joke!
The boulder will still be cool under the sea. And also, under the sea that ceo finally has some real value. As food.
Everybody wants a rock to wind their CEOs around.
I thought that this was gonna be a different joke, I’m not gonna lie.
Now I’m morbidly curious what joke you were thinking…
“It’s an acceptable loss.”
can we stop with the political shit? its clogging the feed on lemmy and its making the site boring as fuck.
I mean, this is on lemmy.ml…
this is a blanket statement. Its like everyone who posts on here is constantly triggered and has to rage post. I don’t know how you can live your life every day like that. The point was good the first time it was posted, but every day the same thing over and over like propaganda, sounds kinda familiar.
It’s almost like the material conditions of the society haven’t changed, and that people are desperate for a symbol to rally around. You’re watching the birth of a folk hero. You’re a witness to history.
how is he a folk hero? do you people live in the middle of the woods larping a resistance fighters?
The rock is a folk hero, that is why people are reticent to throw their heros into the sea with trash tied to them.
Are you a CEO? If so…the Sea…it calls for you!
no? I just know that fallout is a video game and not real life.
You would have been saying the same if we were alive and talking about Guy Fawkes after he tried to blow up Parliament.
He stood the test of time, so why wouldn’t Luigi.
Well, you want to know a cold, hard, undeniable fact, grounded in the very fabric of reality?
Brian Robert Thompson will never kill again.
40,000 victims. But not one more.
Could we not go for a more sustainable solution? I’m sure they’d make a pretty decent fertiliser.
The CEOs will be fully recycled by sea life. Steel is just iron and carbon, no real damage to the environment as they rust away. And boulders are inert. And we can make sure the CEOs are dressed in suits made of all natural fibers when we chuck 'em in the drink!
Also the boulder
Pipneers used to ride those babies for miles.
It’s a very neat boulder.
I guess this meme only applies to America?
In most European countries, you pay for your insurance by contributing a certain percentage of your wages to your insurance company and a retirement payout company. Of course, you don’t have to bother with that, since your employer does this in most cases (if you’re not a contractor). I think this is a better strategy than just paying from what you have.
In the Netherlands your pension fund is withheld from your wages (partially a mandatory government fund, partially a fund your employer might select).
My previous employer invested about 1% of my wages into the fund, which was quite shite. My current employer invests 10% and has a significantly better return.
Health insurance is a monthly cost you pay on your own (starting at around € 120 / mo). It’s a € ~350 yearly deductible and coverage is mostly decided by the government. Any additional coverage is your own choosing and comes at a premium.
As you can only switch contracts on a yearly basis, comparing health plans is effectively a Christmas tradition for all Dutch citizens.
A drop of guillotine is completely free. Just saying.
Sure. But it just doesn’t have the same fire and brimstone “wrath of an angry God” feel to it. Guillotines are quick. But if you really hate someone, you’ll go to the trouble of hauling an 800 lb boulder around just to off 'em. If you really want to show your displeasure with someone, you’ll go to the trouble of loading a giant rock on a boat and hauling it an hour offshore. It’s “I hate you so much I’m willing to go to this amount of effort!”
What about a really dull guillotine?
One that takes ten or fifteen drops to do any real damage?
I mean, yeah, but it just doesn’t have the same vibe to it. You can’t make a grandiose speech about “condemning them to the depths.” Plus it’s just much more terrifying, watching the surface of the water rise above you, as you’re pulled inexhorably down into the abyss…
Also, the water muffles the screaming!
Don’t wanna ruin the fun, but I’d argue a 100lb (to continue the weird measures) boulder would more than suffice.
It’s not about efficiency; it’s about sending a message! Bullets are a lot easier than boulders into the Sea, but they just don’t have the same vibe! Nothing says you hate someone quite as much as being willing to haul a half ton boulder a hundred miles offshore in a boat. The impracticality isn’t a bug; it’s a feature! For boulders chucked into the ocean, the bigger, the better!
Yeah sure,but…it’s 400lbs. I mean, if I did that with every person I hate…oh boy. Strongman in 2 years. World domination in 5. Am I truly ready for this responsibility? Is anyone?
Bring justice to the wicked AND get swole? Sounds like positives all around. You’ll basically be Hercules at that point!
But that’ll bring a new level of responsibility. I couldn’t just be Hercules without trying to rid the world of evil. And I already have plans for the weekend 🤨
I mean, even Hercules is allowed to take a break. In fact, self-care is a vital part of the work of any true hero! You can’t be effectively battling evil if you’re unhealthy, depressed, or sleep deprived. Take care of yourself, superfam!
Even in death they’d be causing sea levels to rise.
But they’re providing valuable nutrients to endangered sea critters, so it balances out from an environmental perspective.
Hey… Boulders ain’t cheap either.
That’s completely inappropriate. That boulder could be turned into a statue.
IDK. I’m thinking more a giant bronze statue of Luigi would be more appropriate. Interesting enough, those things aren’t as expensive as you might think. Some googling suggests a cost of between $25k-250k for a life sized bronze statue. That’s a lot for an individual, but well within the realm of crowd funding. I say we place it on a main road outside UHC’s headquarters in Minnesota. Make the bastards drive past it every single day on the way to work.
What if we start killing board members instead of just CEOs, you know, the puppet masters along with the puppet.
While we are at it, also any billionaires to
You can’t murder your way out of a situation you didn’t murder yourself into.
They started it, we just need to finish it.
Not with that attitude.
Technically speaking humanity did murder itself out of feudalism and into capitalism
There’s no shortage of steel that I’m aware of, and chain production is entirely automated at this point. So why not?
This is my biggest frustration with these posts. We might not like it, but CEOs are still working class. Most of their wealth is derived from a paycheck. They aren’t even the owning class. They’re rich AF, but they’re a symptom more than a problem.
CEOs are not working class dumbass hahahaha
Working class means your primary wealth generation tool is selling your labor. The compensation plans vary widely, but I think most CEOs are earning most of their wealth through a salary vs returns on things they own.
You can hate it all you want, but that’s what working class means.
Ok genius, what’s the"labor" provided by a CEO? How do horizontal organizations like cooperative manage without that piece of labor? Do you know what a traitor of it class is? It’s the reason police don’t get the working class title either, they are watchdogs that provide no labor value, just means of control for the ruling class. Fuck capitalism, CEOs, the police, and everyone collaborating with oppression.
I don’t think value to society weighs into the equation, just the ratio of salary to ownership wealth gain.
There are bad people in the working class that are a net detriment to society, just as there are good people in the owning class that are a net benefit. Those good and bad deeds don’t change how they accrue wealth and therefore don’t change their class.
This working class isn’t a morality judgement, it’s a wealth ratio per individual.
They’re mostly paid in stock options.
According to Forbes, on average 60% of CEO compensation is equity. In short, I was wrong. My bad!
