@ValueSubtracted Thanks for the reminder. Yeah, I would never link because eww, but a screenshot for general pointing-and-laughing was just too tempting.

Allowing this to stay up but not linking to it seems wrong. I don’t know anything about this site other than the headline but if you disagree that strongly, which seems to be the right reaction, you should ban the headlines too.

Republicans think women are animals. otherwise why would they want to strip away their human rights like access to abortion clinics and revoke their rights to vote? (no need to answer we all know why)

if they don’t hate women, Republicans have a really fucked up view of the equality that Trek embodies from start to finish.

Nice

a hopeful future. dystopian futures have plenty of republicans.

Nah, it’s just your typical conservative with zero media literacy not understanding Star Trek and thinking no one else does either.

I do, they just think it’s an unrealistic world, not a bad one. Something that could never happen here.

@Zephorah And all of this is pretty obvious to anyone with their brain turned on. But even that seems a bridge too far for some.

Yeah it’s a profoundly stupid take.

There’s the famous Whoopi Goldberg quote about how as a little kid she saw it with a black woman not beimg a maid and running around the house screaming about it in celebration

There’s the famous story about Nichelle Nichols wanting to quit to do plays until MLK jr told her that she needed to stay for black people everywhere to be represented as an equal member of the crew, and it was the only show he’d let his kids stay up late to watch.

From its inception it’s been “woke” by daring to put both a black woman and an asian man in roles where they were to be treated as equals and valued members of the group.

I’d like to add more examples, but it’s been so long since I’ve watched any star trek.

EDIT: I just remembered the not at all subtile jab at racism with the two guys that had half black half white faces.

Conservatives do not understand subtext, satire, or allegory. They don’t assign what they like or don’t based on any meaningful understanding of the message it conveys. They get told what to like and believe by authority and follow it, constantly dismissing or dissonancing any message from what they consume that doesn’t align with their instilled beliefs.

They entertained TVs first interracial kiss

This is not true, in several ways.

Firstly, it needs the modifier “American” in there. The UK’s first interracial kiss on TV, for example, was in 1962.

Secondly, if we’re defining “interracial” as specifically between someone Black and someone white, then Nancy Sinatra & Sammy Davis Jr. preceded Star Trek by a year.

Thirdly, perceptions of race change. The studio which made I Love Lucy was extremely hesitant to allow Ball & Arnaz to portray themselves as a married couple, precisely because the fact that Arnaz was Cuban meant that the marriage was “interracial”. The kiss they shared in the first episode - in 1951 - would have been seen at the time as an interracial kiss.

Fourthly, even without a changing definition of race there had been previous interracial kisses on the lips on US television - William Shatner himself had previously twice shared a romantic on-screen kiss with someone of Asian descent, once actually in Star Trek.

None of this is to diminish the importance, impact, or progressiveness of the Uhura/Kirk kiss, but it is often overstated. It doesn’t need to be the first ever interracial kiss on TV to be significant. If it really does have to be the first ever something, then it’s the first ever kiss on the lips on US television between a Black person and a white person.

@DarkCloud If I wanted to be charitable, I’d acknowledge that there haven’t really been progressive Republicans pretty much since Reagan, so younger conservatives haven’t been exposed to them.

@owenfromcanada These people have invested their entire identities in being miserable. Which ironic because ST is largely optimistic about the future.

@owenfromcanada @socprof

I was only 14 when I put on my big boy pants and learned from the Bell Riots that socialism was bad and I will forever ignore the factors that create such mass unemployment.

@PhilipTheBucket They get such a shallow understanding of things, and then get all butt hurt when other people provide a much more logical interpretation based on the specifically stated intents of the original show creators.

Yeah conveniently the photo they chose left uhura out…

Probably just a coincidence

@don Toxic masculinity is a helluva drug.

Bold of you to assume they know it’s space communism. If the boys is of any indication Star Trek needs to explicitly say “we’re space communism” for there to be a 50/50 chance of Republicans getting it.

Conservatives like Star Trek because it promotes the values of meritocracy, hierarchy, authority, and military discipline. None of these are commonly held by people in the American left (especially not the academic left, which tend to be pretty anti-hierarchical, anti-authoritarian).

The people usually referred to as Republicans these days are right-wing populists. They have very little in common with the types of conservatives who loved the franchise in the 20th century. Those older conservatives are almost extinct in the Republican Party today.

@Archangel1313 Noooo, true ST is about straight manly men kicking alien butts!

Remember not so long ago when people noticed that Rise Against makes political songs? A lot of people are blind to stuff like this until you point it out.