• MeatPilot@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I do like the early days when it would pop up crazy shit from reddit., because they tossed it in unfiltered

    Some crazy examples floating around where someone asked “Can you fall if you run off a cliff?” and the Google search assist AI gave some classic reddit response like “if you don’t look down you won’t fall.”

    Dumb shit probably still pops up.

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    2 months ago

    So basically it’s just a Reddit search engine. Where most of the facts are based on “trust me bro”.

  • JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    Yeah that’s not how you’re supposed to use reddit in your search. But why are there so many stores on this list of “fact” sources?

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    So aside from Wikipedia which is a publicly user maintained service which has become pretty reputable … the majority of the ‘facts’ that LLMs collect (about 75%) is all collected from privately controlled websites with curated content that is managed and maintained by corporations. And of all that content, most of it is also manipulated and controlled to make people either angry, mad, frightened, sad or anxious.

    They’re teaching the next AI on our negative impulses, greatest fears and worst anxieties.

    What could go wrong?

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        2 months ago

        That would be a more honest representation of human culture rather than the curated content that is constantly manipulated and controlled by a private corporation.

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      2 months ago

      Depends on what it’s for. If I’m asking a discrete question about a mechanic in a video game, Wikipedia won’t have that.

      As much as I don’t like AI, it has made a lot of my Google searches better. Still not good for a lot of the things people use it for though.

      • ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works
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        Maybe you researched wrong? The way I would use Wikipedia is search for “video game”then rabbit holes (not a bad thing, more info the better)>game engine> node programming > game engine >game mechanics > gaming concepts> animation > so on (can’t think of other examples). You need to connect the dots that Wikipedia has provided in their format/layout.

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          No, I mean for example if I want to know how the “Trusty Shield” boon works in Hades 2, I can just google it and get the answer right away.

          20 years ago, I’d have gone to gamefaqs and found a text guide with the answer.

          10 years ago, I’d have googled it and gotten a bunch of useless fucking videos.

          5 years ago I’d have added “reddit” to my search and had to click through results to find the answer in the comments eventually.

          Today I just search for it and get the answer right away.

          Google’s search engine has only gotten shittier every year, except in these very specific cases where AI search results actually help.

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            Ha 20 years ago for gamefaqs, old fart but probably close to the same age lol.

            Let’s work this backwards to show how we contribute to build this shitty internet… Reddit is full of bots, enough to break the system technically and mentally + the new age of Reddit (summing it all up.

            Yeah google sucks, but have you recently been on different search engines? I use Ecosia now and hot damn it’s a breath of fresh air. It’s like google at its peak, just about 5% garbage and it’s easy to tell.

            Lastly…… you know the saying….”if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”? Damn, gamefaqs still exists and it’s clean and seams it hasn’t lost its touch. We just kept going for the next shiny option and settled worse less and for worse. To be fair I just went on their site because I haven’t touched it off and on with 5 year gap since its peak.

            That’s just my current observation at the moment high and drinking an IPA. Like myself tonight, i think we over did it…

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              There are zero Hades 2 guides on gamefaqs. The site is still up, but it’s empty.

              I tried my query on Ecosia. It gave me the same search results as Google, but the AI result hallucinated a bunch of bullshit.

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      2 months ago

      It’s not even a source itself, like a search engine or encyclopedia it references other sources for it’s content.

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        2 months ago

        Or a source of sources LMAO. Still better than my Reddit comments. Which they are helpful but also stupid silly at the same time.

    • Goodeye8@piefed.social
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      2 months ago

      It’s far worse than that. AI can cite something AI generated as a source which itself is using something generated by AI as a source. So you can get an AI summary that uses an AI generated video as a source which itself used an AI generated article as a source and that article itself was an AI hallucination. We’re essentially polluting the internet making it an unreliable source of information.

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    2 months ago

    That’s not how AI learns “facts”, that’s how AI learns tokens.