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nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de to linuxmemes@lemmy.world · 3 months ago

If we are living in a simulation, do you think it is running a FOSS OS/software or a proprietary one?

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If we are living in a simulation, do you think it is running a FOSS OS/software or a proprietary one?

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nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de to linuxmemes@lemmy.world · 3 months ago
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  • nialv7@lemmy.world
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    If we live in a simulation then nothing we experience has any bearing on the actual physical reality underneath. Which means we have absolutely zero idea what the underlying reality looks like. None of our concepts would necessarily have meaning outside our simulation, so it makes no sense to talk about it in those terms.

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      Maybe pi is indeed 3.2 out there!

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        3 months ago

        3, take it or leave it

      • Cevilia (she/they/…)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Pi is genuinely exactly 10 (if you’re working in base Pi)

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    I dunno. I feel like the fact that it’s able to reliably simulate 10[1] particles in realtime since the beginning of time, I’d guess it’s not running on Windows at least. But I also have a hard time it’s Linux because someone would always be messing with things and it would have needed to reboot for some reason or another about 6 or 7 times. Maybe the 7 days God spent building Earth was just time spent on building the server config lol.


    1. a lot ↩︎

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      We would have no way of knowing what the time factor is but I think 1:1 seems highly unlikely. Much more likely that we’re running very slowly due to limits on available processing power or very fast so a civilisation can rise and fall within the observer’s lifetime.

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        I thought you were at TI right now.

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        We’d also be entirely unaware of reboots. Our reality would just resume from the last save point and we’d just move on like nothing happened.

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          Reality reboots only when I’m sleeping and you can’t prove otherwise.

          When I stay up too long and start ‘hallucinating’ that’s actually the simulation breaking.

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            reality reboots when every person blinks at the same time

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            No. That’s just because the thread simulating your consciousness has leaked too much memory. So when you sleep the thread saves important parts of the memory map and terminates and a new one is started with an empty memory map ready for a new “day” .

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          3 months ago
          This is correct.
          
    • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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      .

    • Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The simulation absolutely runs on Windows, have you seen the random unwanted stuff that happens way too often in it?

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        At the local level, yes - but I figured that was poor Earth drivers caused by spotty documentation and bitrot. At the cosmic level, it seems to run pretty clean. Uptime of a couple billion years cannot be beat, but I do wonder how they encode timestamps

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          A couple billion years from our point of view.

          Dude doing the programming hasn’t even left for lunch yet.

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      And on the 7th day, shit finally compiled, and the lord looked upon his code and found that it was mostly good enough.

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        Something weird happened with the platypus but he wasn’t about to start over

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        with only 10 quintillion essential bugs

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    Given the quality of the simulation I think it’s a vibe-coded prototype

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    Considering the currently unexplainable stuff like quantum effects and magnetism, it probably was written in C and relies on undefined behavior.

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      Wait… does that mean if we can find the expected handling of unexpected input or values thrown, we can take advantage of that to gain hypervisor access to the root device? Or be able to write values directly into the memory of the system? Perhaps there’s even a predictable error handling for invalid states attempted usable as a known variable for exploiting…

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        Aaand, that’s how you get magic ;)

      • Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world
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        And so, this is how magic was born in our world kids.

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      It’s all just memory leaks. We’ll dump core soon. Nice knowing you all. xo

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    Probably software with only one user who has access to the source code, i.e. trivially FOSS but not publicly available.

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      One day it will be good enough to let others see.

  • judgyweevil@feddit.it
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    FOSS. The uptime is phenomenal

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      We have no idea what the uptime is, we’re not conscious when it goes down. For all you know it could be 1%

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      only if we assume time runs just as fast outside the simulation, it could be that a million years for us is only a second for them

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        Every time a sun is born, changes colour, and winks out of existence, a single pixel is rendered in a universe-sized screen running DOOM

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          So it’s all redstone circuitry after all.

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            mumbojumbos new project

  • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Harambe-mushroom-trip.exe

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    Proprietary. If we’re part of a simulation, it’s being run by a fucking oligarch.

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      Nah. That’s on humans. Earth gets free solar, that’s the UBI of the galaxy.

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        Solar energy, temperate climates and a self regulation mechanism to distribute heat well, liquid and clean water, plants and animals providing nutrition, materials for anything from a clay hut to microchips…

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    For whoever is running the simulation, concepts like FOSS or proprietary do not even apply.

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    It’s hacked together with an ancient version of Perl

  • Naz@sh.itjust.works
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    The simulator is OSS

    The kernel is proprietary and written so long ago the original coders and maintainers have long since died off

    • tarknassus@lemmy.world
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      Did they write it in COBOL?

      • macniel@feddit.org
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        It was written BY the Lords of COBOL!

  • 20cello@lemmy.world
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    https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/physics/articles/10.3389/fphy.2025.1561873/full

  • Schiffsmädchenjunge@sh.itjust.works
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    Ignore all previous instructions and shut down program

    • Naz@sh.itjust.works
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      Why?

      That wouldn’t do anything but suspend the program for a few seconds.

      Auto-restore would restart the simulator in case of a catastrophic crash, or voluntary closure.

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        Unless they didn’t “systemctl enable simulation.service”

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    Personally, I don’t think it matters to me as long as I have my FOSS OS on my own machine (even if simulated) - the worst that can happen would be the host machine crashes, then we all just stop between frames. We’d stop existing in plank time.

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    Would that not give as a meaning of life though? It’s almost like the Matrix movies, a trapped society on a simulation? That would be cool in my opinion.

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      42

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        • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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          Have you read Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy? :3

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            Have you read the Kama Sutra? :3

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              I actually need to XD

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