If they are smart enough to upgrade to 11 then they aren’t smart enough to switch to Linux
I dunno bro, I use Linux and I’m dumb af on a good day.
I doubt that people aren’t “smart enough”. I’ve seen the ads for windows 11 on my dad’s PC, they are literally full screen banners that guide you right to the upgrade. It couldn’t be more simple and obnoxious. The truth is that people simply don’t want Windows 11.
I would want Windows 11 if it wasn’t a total privacy nightmare. I have been a Windows user for a long time, but MS scared me away the moment the started requiring online accounts. Half my life is on my computer, they can fuck right off with that. Windows is generally pretty good for work computers, but I rather take my private business elsewhere
Well windowd have gon fown the shitter for work computers lately IMO.
Everything is slow, not the programs you’re running but everything taken care of by the OS. Like right click to get the context menu, why does it take real time to pup up? Launch a script, same thing. It’s like everything you do is first “analysed” before you’re “allowed” to do it. Maybe not even locally.
Also the OS shouldn’t get in the way, like you mistakenly write “python3” in the shell, suddenly the “windows shop” opens up, with the extra fuck you telling you that it hasn’t got that python3. Like wtf.
On steam linux has already passed the market share of windows… 7.
While people don’t want to move onto Windows 11, I recently saw a fricking Vista on a local office supply store.
I’ve seen brand new installs of XP. An ancient process works there, so if they need a new deployment, XP it is.
No internet and minimum user interaction though
It’s really fine if they have no access to internet. They probably have their software that works fine with it, and probably won’t work on newer OSes. There is an airport that still uses Win 3.1 on some computers, don’t recall the name though.
Funny thing is, XP still appears on Windows market share.
There is an airport that still uses Win 3.1 on some computers, don’t recall the name though.
You’re probably remembering articles stating that Southwest Airlines still uses Windows 3.1, they were floating around the tech news sites during the CrowdStrike fiasco a few months back.
Aww, too bad it’s actually fake. It was interesting yet funny. Though me remembering that goes a couple years back. It seems it’s been around for some time, probably a meme then.
Thanks for the link by the way. ^^
You mean the year of unpatched Windows 10.
You can now pay for extended updates.
As long as the browsers keep getting patches we’re all good.
I decided to set up Fedora on my new laptop as it was either take a chance on that or spend like 3 hours debloating a Win11 install.
It’s been over 10 years since I last tried dailying Linux, we have come a long way in that time. Everything just worked out of the box. No fucking around needed.
Even relatively niche stuff like my thunderbolt dock and the laptop’s fingerprint sensor was picked up. And, thanks to the investment Valve has been putting into Wine and Proton, pretty much every game I’ve tried has worked with no issue.
Next time my desktop is due for a clean install I’ll definitely be doing the same there.
Please Valve launch SteamOS, and I can be done with it
Just install Bazzite, I think that’s basically SteamOS.
Oh huh, Bazzite’s based on Fedora Atomic. What’s the one that’s just Windows under the hood? I remember being surprised, “why would people want to install THAT on a Steam Deck”?
there not many easy results for “arch based distro with KDE how to [do thing]” but there are a lot of Steamdeck tutorials and a SteamOS desktop version would make it better
My yearly “I should try Linux again” cycle would probably stay permanently if Valve makes the OSPeople who just blindly copy and paste random commands without any transferable thinking shouldn’t use computers in the first place.
everyone starts somewhere, it stars mindless then they eventually learn slowly but surely with a lot of mistakes. I did. I nuked my OS several times but now know a lot more about Linux because of it.
If you apply that thinking then 9/10ths of the Linux community wouldn’t have ever started using it.
Hell 99% of the non tech people I know IRL wouldn’t be able to send a text if that line of thinking is extended to them.So they shouldn’t pay their bills, do their taxes, work?
You can’t live without using a computer anymore.They should learn working with computers then.
KDEs Project Banana OS basically sounds like Steamdecks immutable Arch with Plasma
Unless Valve has said otherwise, I doubt SteamOS is going to be released for desktop. SteamOS is basically just Arch + kde plasma but with tweaks targeting the SteamDeck hardware
Is there really a significant difference between steamOS and using big picture mode + proton? I’ve had hardly any issues using steam on Ubuntu to play windows only games. Even Microsoft flight sim works despite trying it’s hardest to act like part of windows.
Yeah, just like how Netflix’s rule changes was going to get everyone to turn to piracy. In reality, their subscription numbers skyrocketed, just like how new Windows PC sales will in 10 months.
Don’t worry, they’ll drop 12 soon to make people prefer 11
It has been near for the past 15 years.
It’s the nearestest it’s ever been !!!11
Its getting nearerer!
what are 15 years for immortal linux. nothing. a blink of an eye
41 version of Fedora.
ME ??
That wasn’t a good OS either…
Yes, precious.
We wants it!
2020 2021 2022 2023 20242025 !!!The year of the Linux desktop will happen when a large company decides to donate a remarkable amount of resources to the development and maintenance of a specific distro to make it user friendly and give it the feeling that someone who actually knows better than most users is taking care of important stuff in the background.
…Valve? 👀
AND runs all windows programs right out of the box with no faffing about.
TBH: Most private users aren’t really using many programs. They are running chrome. Maybe an email client, but even that is declining. They are looking at pictures with the standard photo viewer and maybe at some PDFs and sometimes they are writing a letter and print it? Linux totally can do that.
Sure, but chances are if that’s your use case, you moved to a tablet years ago. Your photo storage is likely Facebook and Google Photos backup.
The casual people doggedly hanging onto PCs likely have some obscure software they need to run on it, either for work or personal use.
That’s not completely accurate. Remember, a lot of people want a full keyboard for typing; and an iPad with a keyboard is way more expensive than a mid-range Chromebook. Plus, a whole generation of students are growing up and entering the workforce having used nothing but ChromeOS for their entire middle school and high school careers; for them, a Chromebook feels very familiar.
Microsoft is VERY close to losing every install advantage they have. Gaming, corporate, devops, and government are the only use cases their leads are still in any way commanding in; and they’re fiddling while Valve puts the finishing touches on Steam OS, they’re about to lose their tenth consecutive K12 graduating class who will go into the workforce more familiar with ChromeOS than Windows, devops is increasingly moving toward web portals, and government…well, let’s face it, that’s not a particularly lucrative single game to win.
Google has already eaten Microsoft’s lunch and dinner. And now they’re about to split Windows’ breakfast with Valve. Unless they make some major changes, and quick, Microsoft is going to go into the 2030s less relevant than they’ve been in decades.
Novell tried to do that with SuSE Linux in the early 2000’s and I’ve never forgiven them. Edit, AND did deals with Microsoft. Brr.
Sadly almost every average user will most likely just use windows 10 past the end and won’t bother doing anything and eventually just buy new PC in few years. Also some stuff just can’t be done on Linux for work, not that it can’t be done but had problems with people not being able to open the files that were made on Linux libre office. But personally I’ll switch to Linux for safety and try to make it daily driver.
I have solved my work problem by using the online versions of MS office and SharePoint. The desktop versions are just emulated web apps these days anyway. I have only seen MS Project (which sucks anyway) and Excel having features I needed once or twice on the desktop version vs the online version.
Try OnlyOffice it’s basically indistinguishable from Microsoft Office, and available as a flatpak
To put this in perspective, it fell by 0.48%
Windows 10 grew by 0.89%
Linux actually dropped by 0.26% in that same period.
Not that I’d be too concerned about any of that, because that’s all data from reported OS in website visits, so all those are well within the margin of error.
