Mine was when they have windows 8 out for free for a limited time. Then I wasn’t able to go back to 7 somehow. Was already into linux by then. That just made me commit 100%. Gamer, CAD user, but still haven’t looked back.
Damn. My 10 year old HP all in one is gonna be bricked? Damn shame
Fuck it man, I’ll take it, you can still spin that up with Linux and run a bunch of microservices on it. Not a great form factor for a server, but guess what, if these China tariffs take off, you’re gonna be so glad you have a 10 year old machine to have around for extra compute power, since buying new compute will be obscenely costly. (Assuming you’re in the USA of course, if you’re in Europe you’ll be fine)
I gotta figure out how to transfer my PLC software first lol
Download the Windows 11 ISO and tick an option to mitigate the new requirements in Rufus. That’s all you have to do. Or download the Windows 10 IoT iso from massgrave. Supported until 2030-something.
I think it needs to be retired. I strictly using it for streaming shows and it’s about a 30% chance that I have to do a hard reboot for that to work. It’s had 2 factory resets and a number of internal cleanings. It’s dying bro. It’s time to put it down
Fair enough. Tho if you do discover some functional hardware that’s unsupported by W11, know that you don’t have to turn to Linux at all.
Install Linux if you still want use your old computer
Not particularly lol. Probably gonna retire it and give it a heroes funeral for lasting as long as it did
nah, for old computers, you can’t get anything better than MenuetOS or its fork, KolibriOS. That will run on my flipflops too. recommended system requirements: Pentium MMX (this is literally from 1997), 32 mb ram (yes, you read that right), 1.4 mb (entire operating system size with preinstalled programs, yes it is something else), any vga adapter released after 1995
This is the first time I’ve seen a Roblox meme template 💀💀
The future is now old man!
I’m in my early 20s 💀
Sheesh gramps get with the times
TwT
What’s wrong with it?
Trying to get Roblox running inside of mint is a pita
nothing in particular, I was just taken by surprise that a Roblox meme was in my feed lol
Does anyone else find these OS wars silly? To me an OS is a tool and you should be using whatever tool is best suited for the job. For me I’m regularly switching between all 3 major OS’s.
I’ve got windows systems, Linux systems and MacOS all under regular use at home
I think MacOS and Linux are viable OS’s whereas Windows is shit and deserves to be nowhere near a computer, maybe a toaster or something idk
Imagine your toast not popping up because your toaster started updating itself randomly.
Well, most people don’t have spare computers at home, so they do actually need to decide. It also means that they can’t easily try out different operating systems, so even when they’re unhappy with their current OS, they’ll rarely inform themselves about alternatives.
Uh oh, prepare to be downvoted to oblivion for such a balanced take (j/k… I hope).
I’m a Linux noob so I put Mint on my PC. I like it a lot, very smooth and clean looking.
i have been using mint (cinnamon) too for like a year and a half. every now and then i try another distro and a few more, but i always land back where i started. it even looks pretty with the “sweet dark v40” gtk theme.
I will likely go back to mint once Windows 10 is done. 11 is pure trash.
The major hang up I have is gaming. I have an Nvidia card and it’s never behaved well with Linux. I also like GTAO but I will no longer be able to play it. Most of my other titles work fine.
I don’t know what I’m going to do yet.
pop!os reportedly packs in and handles the proprietary nvidia drivers for you, which can be a pain to handle yourself. i haven’t tried it nor do i have nvidia but i see it highly recommended a lot.
Am using Pop!_OS for video editing (DaVinci Resolve Studio) and gaming with nvidia GPU. I don’t have to think much about the operating system or GPU drivers, they work perfectly fine and get out of the way when I need to do some work.
Also have it installed on both kids’ PCs (both with nvidia GPUs) and my wife’s laptop (AMD iGPU). My son has installed a few GNOME extensions to customize; my wife and daughter have left it pretty much stock. It’s about as unobtrusive as an OS can get.
I will always have a special place in my heart for EndeavourOS, but right now, I feel like I have a more solid foundation with Pop!_OS.
have you tried Kdenlive and Olive? i heard those are very advanced and open-source. I will also switch to those from InShot
I got my start with kdenlive and still pull up some of my old project files in it, yeah. It’s really good, has a much better feature set than one would expect.
I got into the Blackmagic ecosystem with an Intensity Pro 4k capture card and was pretty happy to see that they offer native Linux support, even if it is for Rocky 8, so I snagged one of their Resolve Speed Editors, which came with a Resolve Studio license, and I’ve been using that ever since.
If your system supports windows 11 then dual boot for the games you want windows support for.
Then you have a bare metal option for those games and you can run whatever distro you want along side it.
I too am in a conundrum. I like the idea of Linux a lot, but pretty much all I use my laptop for is a) Excel and b) very rarely games, neither of which make sense to use Linux for.
I’ll build a home server at some point and I think that’ll be my start.
Have you tried Libre Office? It’s an open source Microsoft Office alternative that works pretty great. You can try it on Windows.
In my experience people who really use excel are always going to need excel.
Also in my experience excel runs great on Mac Laptops, which are so much better than any other laptop I’ve touched in the last 20 years. If you’ve tried their touchpads you’ll know what I mean. Total game changers for truly mobile computing.
In my experience people who really use excel are always going to need excel
That’s my experience too, unfortunately. LibreOffice is lagging too far behind O365 on features that you can reliably cooperate on spreadsheets across applications. Something like e.g. XLOOKUP is a fairly recent addition in Calc.
i heard good things about Bazzite abd Ubuntu/Pop OS with nvidia support
I switched to Linux Mint several months ago. Thanks to Proton, All my Steam games that I bought for Windows run great. (I’m using an nVidia RTX 3060). And any older games like “Deus Ex” or “Giants: Citizen Kabuto” run under Wine, using the default settings.
Nah, not for me. I’ve known to use Windows OSes beyond their EOL support. I remember having still been on Windows XP while everyone else went to Vista and then to Win7. When I got to Win8, it was only because I bought another computer from a friend that had it, that was how I got upgraded.
I don’t abide by when Microsoft wants me to upgrade by, if they can pull their heads out of their asses (unlikely) for Windows 12, then I might consider.
Do you disconnect your EOL machines from the internet then?
Bc using an OS that doesn’t get security updates is just asking for trouble, especially if you connect it to the internet
I’ve not once ever contracted a virus or anything malicious whenever I’ve had an EOL OS online.
I’m not that fucking stupid. You just need to know your shit and know where not to go, if there is anywhere to go.
That’s not necessarily going to happen to Windows 10 the day support ends, but do you really want to gamble on when it will?
To be fair, they connected the XP and 2k machines directly to the internet. Normally you have a router in between nowadays which makes such infections way harder.
right? end of support has never meant end of useful life in my experience. I went from 98 to vista. don’t inconvenience yourself is my main advice to people looking to switch. Shit I’ll probably be installing win 10 LTSC at some point even though I’m all in on Linux as a daily driver already.
Linux doesn’t run what I need, getting some form of LTSC is my only option.
You can get the LTSC ISOs directly from Microsoft, and activate with https://massgrave.dev/
Thanks for the link, that is where I will be going to do just that.
I would use Linux if I could but sadly I can’t.
Weird to use a game that decided to drop its official Linux support for this meme
Not only that but they also detect VMs so if you want to play it you have to dual boot
Lutris is a thing
They disabled the use of Proton/Wine.
I don’t think that there’s ever been an “official” client for Roblox?
Unless Linux hits 2-digit market share and iPad kids start to use Linux
Official Linux support is silly honestly. It will always be janky.
Windows just works with wine and proton most of the time.
What?
By “ending official Linux support” they meant that they disabled the use of Roblox through Proton/Wine.
At least Sober’s working.
Serious question from someone who is in this situation: What the best os for someone who want to switch from window 10 to Linux because of the eol? Is it really mint ?
First step: Decide on the so-called desktop environment. A shortlist is provided below. For a new user, this should be decisive when choosing between beginner-friendly distros.
Before going over to the next (and final) step, we need to set the stage for our contenders:
- Versions of Linux Mint. Linux Mint has (rightfully so) become the face of Linux for beginners. Stand out feature would be how crazy popular it is; it’s a joy to look up your problem through a search engine and find solutions for it.
- Images of uBlue. Where Linux Mint tries to smooth the rough edges of the “traditional Linux model” as nicely as possible, uBlue’s images can be referred to as revolutionary by comparison. The model strikes some (re)semblance to what you might know from your phone or chromebook. These images aren’t even close to reaching their full potential, but have already garnered/amassed a wide audience for how they (at least attempt to) solve some of Desktop Linux’ long-standing issues. Note that finding solutions for your problems might not be as straightforward. However, documentation is decent and they’ve been very helpful on Discord.
Final step: Pick the distro corresponding to your preferred desktop environment. The list found below (ordered alphabetically) isn’t trying to be exhaustive on desktop environments.
- Cinnamon; Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition. This is their flagship and probably what people mean when referring to Linux Mint.
- GNOME; Bazzite’s GNOME. If you don’t intend to game, then consider Bluefin instead.
- KDE Plasma; Bazzite’s KDE Plasma. If you don’t intend to game, then consider Aurora instead.
- MATE; Linux Mint MATE Edition.
- Xfce; Linux Mint Xfce Edition.
I wouldn’t go uBlue personally. It is very new and I don’t like the focus. Don’t go straight to immutable Linux.
Don’t go straight to immutable Linux.
My first foray into Linux was through what you’d refer to as immutable Linux; shortly after the release of Fedora Kinoite. I’m literally the embodiment of the antithesis to your statement.
It is very new
This is factually true. So I can’t simply deny that. But being more precise is helpful:
- Fedora Atomic, the family of distros that enable uBlue, has been in the works since 2014. This eventually culminated into the release of Fedora Atomic Workstation in 2018, which was the name of Fedora Silverblue before the name change.
- The first commit of uBlue as a project happened over three years ago.
- The 1.0 release of Bazzite happened over a year ago.
- By contrast, Linux Mint has been out since 2006.
and I don’t like the focus.
Could you be more elaborate 😜?
They will get a little more respect from me when they stop trying to target programmers and gamers. Because of course everyone uses Steam and VScode. It just feels very much like it is being run by young edgy programmers. It is the same group that is trying to force crappy “dark mode” everywhere.
What’s the bigger program is the lack of internet knowledge about how to fix problems. With Ubuntu and Debian there are tons of stack overflow pages on all of the various issues. Sure things have changed over time but it still the most documented distro. I can look up “how do I fix X Linux Mint” and I will get an answer. With the Bazzite immutable base almost all of the help online will be useless.
So in short I wouldn’t recommend something like Bazzite. Immutable Linux requires that you understand Linux under the hood. Also I am strongly against distros that need to market themselves as gaming.
RIP your inbox lol. Like others have said though whatever you choose test it out booting off a USB first, fwiw I’d vote try FedoraKDE, but more importantly I’ll add this:
Whatever you choose it will be different and it will be an adjustment in some capacity, and that’s ok! And don’t be scared of the terminal, always keep back ups just in case but you really can’t fuck up tooooo bad unless you’re using sudo and then just be real careful. Watch a few youtube videos on something like “linux terminal basics” or “bash basics” and follow along like you’re taking a class, it’ll really help you get familiar with it. It’s a great thing to know how to use, these days if I know how to do it through the terminal I usually will instead of puttering through a gui honestly.
Mint is fine, Kubuntu is also great.
Kubuntu uses snaps as default and I’ve had some trouble with that. My dad is using Kubuntu and there are problems with how programs communicate. Mint is probably a better choice.
I’ll admit I’m biased because I think Cinnamon is ugly. Most people seem to like it and I get it. I just wish Mint hadn’t abandoned the KDE edition. Mint is definitely a great choice though.
Such a decisive question. I wouldn’t say there’s necessarily a “best”. Mint is an EXCELLENT choice. So too would be Fedora (Fedora KDE edition I’d recommend for most) or OpenSuSe Tumbleweed.
Just pick what looks decent to you and give it a shot.
Whatever you pick, first test it by running it from a USB drive first.
Mint is the best to start tbh.
And you could stay in mint for years and barely have to use bash, and when you do there is a well stocked forum, so it is sometimes even easier than windows to troubleshoot.
I switched from Win10 to Mint, and am quite happy. You can get a lot of stuff done through GUI, so you can put off learning how to use the terminal a little. If you are worried about using it, I can recommend using ChatGPT. Helped me troubleshoot a lot of issues and learning a few tricks.
mint is good, pop!os is also good, i use and recommend endeavouros as arch-but-easy. tbh just about any popular distro these days is prolly gonna do fine for the average user.
Microsoft added a CoPilot icon to my Windows 10 Taskbar yesterday. It looks to me like they’re not going to take “no” for an answer.
They also added a “it’s time to upgrade to Windows 11” full screen message on my login screen (with the option to decline in tiny text).
That was my thoughts, too. So, now I’m running Mint on my gaming PC and the one hooked up in my living room for streaming. I tried Kubuntu, and liked it, but KDE Wayland was giving me issues. Installing a different desktop environment just introduced more problems, so I went with a different distro with the DE I wanted, which was Mint with Cinnamon. Now, life is good.
Weird everyone suggests Mint, when it’s way less user friendly then KDE Fedora. I mean, I guess on old hardware Mint is good, but anything newer (like the last 4-5 years) Fedora is pretty much set and forget.
Same with gaming, Bazzite is a WHOLE lot better than Mint.
Mint is on kernel 6.8 what are you talking about(Alteast mainline Mint not LMDE)
I’m on Mint 22 with current laptop hardware (Intel/Nvidia) and it’s been completely plug and play, even for gaming.
I absolutely love Mint.
Desktop has both Mint and Bazzite. I use both daily.
Mint can’t natively control my display or sound, and it has had issues with internet and the Nvidia graphics card before.
Bazzite can natively control display and sound, and I haven’t had to use the CLI even once.
New Lenovo Laptop I tried both too. The mousepad and fn shortcuts for brightness and sound didn’t work on Mint. Fedora mousepad works perfectly and fn shortcuts work
Old 8 year HP 4gb ddr4 laptop neither worked well, so went with a lightweight distro that was debian based.
Old 12 year HP 16gb ddr3 laptop; mint gave internet LAN issues and DVD drive issues, keyboard shortcut for brightness issues. Fedora XFCE no issues.
Friend’s 4 year old Asus laptop; Mint gave issues with WiFi, Nvidia graphics card, and controlling screen brightness. Fedora no issues.
Another friend had similar issues with their laptop on Mint but said no issues on Zorin btw, and Zorin also worked better on their mom’s old desktop. Both are debian based interestingly enough, but Zorin is sort of paid so makes some sense I guess?..
This is all anecdotal of course, but at least based on what I’ve seen, Mint has never been as beginner friendly as it seems compared to Fedora in that it usually requires more tinkering. You even see that here with the pro mint comments suggesting some use of a CLI.
What flavor do you recommend?
People will keep using Windows 10 even if Microsoft will not fix any vulnerability
I’ve been learning Linux (Ubuntu) with an old Laptop a friend was going to throw away.
I like it, but I’m not ready to switch. My biggest complaint… why the hell is it so hard to access an external drive??
I eventually got it, but now I can’t for the life of me remember the command line I used to set access for the first one to set up another one.
You can just use a graphical file manager in Linux like you might have been used to in Windows. When I open mine I see my windows partition and my USB drive listed on the left side.
I know Mint has one that I use all the time, but I’m not familiar with what’s in Ubuntu out of the box.
Nothing as far as I know. What’s the one for Mint called?
That’s “Nemo”.
The one that’s used by Ubuntu by default is called “GNOME Files” or “Nautilus”, in case you want to do some research on it.
I did do some research and I’m now using Nemo! :D
I went to bed after I figured that out though, not sure if it helps my drive situation yet.
There may be an easier way to access the external drive, It depends on what you are bar is for difficult. Are we talking about a NAS or an external USB drive?
What’s your current method for connecting to it?
External drive connected by USB, formatted to FAT32.
Shows up readable, but not writable as default.
It’s not supposed to be read only every time, The nasty command you enter is likely fixing a symptom.
A lot of times if you’re swapping back and forth between windows and Linux the drive will be perceived as dirty. An fsck might be enough to make it stop misbehaving.
After you plug it in if you run sudo dmesg, It might give you some insight as to why it’s being mounted read only, If you fix the underlying cause you won’t have to remember the command anymore
