It’s showing no sign of budging.

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    Doubt microsoft cares much about copilot. It’s like bing to them. Just have a foot in that boat.

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    Corporations have always hated labor because it’s always their highest cost. It’s why layoffs are the first to be used, and usually the largest way, to cover up bad profits for shareholders. Anything that allows a corporation to cut labor costs, even at the expense of their entire service offering was bound to be adopted as thoroughly as possible, regardless of public sentiment. They keep hoping more data will be the key to get AI to replace the cost of having to pay workers!

    Thing is, last I read, humans have not produced enough written works (in all of human history) to make AI good enough to replace labor.

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    Comment from the source:

    Microsoft poisoned their own well with all the changes they have been forcing on users lately. The update nagging, resetting the default browser to edge, the the ads in windows features, and integrating bing into the start menu have all trained users that when Microsoft starts pushing something new, it probably isn’t great and should just be ignored, like ads in phone apps.

    That ^

    Also, the copilot llm sucks. Local models are neat within their limitations, and they’d be even better if Microsoft made them trainable/customizable, did better RAG, more integrated, or whatever, but they just shoved a dumb thing down user’s throats, and now they’ve poisoned another well.

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    They forced something nobody asked for or had a use for beyond the quick what does it do? Then wandered why no one used it? Shocked Pikachu face.

    The meta one in WhatsApp, utterly pointless. Copilot non-use to me at all. Gemini has less features than the old Google assistant and is worse in every way at doing the things it does do.

    It would be great itlf they’d stop reshaping a working OS around fads.

    Tablets went nowhere and left a big scar on Windows and now AI is gonna do the same.

    They missed the boat on the one thing that could have made them money, gaming. If they’d put half the effort of this copilot crap into integrating something to compete with steam around that time then things would be very different.

    This AI bubble needs to pop. It’s had it’s fun, it has some niches but for day to day usage at work and home it’s of no use to the vast majority of people.

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      Yeah there’s nothing I like more than having AI integrated into everything I do. It’s sure fun to have educated guesses crowbarred into everything I search for!

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        Uneducated guesses.

        Basically having a game of telephone crowbarred into everything

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    Honestly I feel as though peak Windows was XP. Windows 7 was probably the last good OS they released but man could XP run on almost anything.

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        The other day I read a post by someone who was wondering, and yes, the IC in a standard usb-c cable is (marginally) more powerful than the computers we used to go to the moon.

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    Isn’t copilot that horrifically invasive LITERAL spyware that screenshots everything you’re doing?

    GEE WHIZ WHO WOULDN’T WANT THAT

    Gods fucking damn it Microsoft, get a clue.

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      Copilot is Microsoft’s name for their AI service, like Google’s Gemini or Chat GPT. Recall is their service that will screenshot everything you do for training improving the results.

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      GEE WHIZ WHO WOULDN’T WANT THAT

      The promise of Copilot is this fanciful idea of automating every job that involves a computer.

      So employers love this, because it is supposed to usher in a drastically smaller office fully of middle management prompt engineers who can simulate a new worker with a few button clicks.

      That’s the dream. That’s who it is for in theory. In practice, the technology doesn’t work.

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        In theory there is little difference between practice and theory. In practice there is.

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        In my industry it’s an incremental improvement.

        Potentially the current tech could make firms 10% more productive if fully realised. That’s my estimate anyway.

        It’s not a game changer.

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      I kind of want to see the chat boards where people who think this is a good idea hang out and justify it…

      With sort of the same way you stare at a train wreck, morbid curiosity.

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        Bet it’d be nauseating as watching /r/conservative

        Just a massive circle jerk with continuous copium-huffing

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        Just thinking of this reminds me of a conversation i had with a c-suite gronk back in the day.

        “What about the cloud? Should we just get rid of our citrix and use that??”

        The suit tiers are full of idiots who used chatgpt once for an incredibly simplistic task and are now obsessed with jamming it up everyone’s arse

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          Cloud, blockchain, now AI… They’re all good for some things but I swear the execs making decisions subscribe to my Aunt Fran’s philosophy with cheese: if a little is good, way too much must be even better!

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        I suspect that the venn diagram of people who talk about this and people who think this a good idea is two separate circles.

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      This kind of thing makes me lose hope for humanity—the tendency for psychopaths to rise in power. Maybe that actually helped us advance to a point but it’ll definitely hold us back from evolving to something more equitable for all.

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    Glad to see it. It begs the question though, if they could get computers to want to talk to other computers and Microsoft could somehow make money, would that make them happy? Is computer to computer business something corporations want?

    That’s right; Microsoft Copilot’s weekly user base is only 5% of the number of people who use ChatGPT, and it’s not increasing. It’s also worth noting that there are approximately 1.5 billion Windows users worldwide, which means just over 1% of them are using Copilot, a tool that’s now a Windows default app. This is quite scary from Microsoft’s point of view, which has put so much effort and money into its AI ventures that it really cannot afford for its business to dwindle out so soon.

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      This is quite scary from Microsoft’s point of view, which has put so much effort and money into its AI ventures that it really cannot afford for its business to dwindle out so soon.

      No one forced them to jump on the hype train. And, rather than realizing people don’t want it shoved into every nook and cranny of the OS and its default apps, they’re probably going to double down and start with full-screen popups or some other bullcrap like they did with the Windows 10 upgrades.

      “The people will like what we tell them to like” only seems to work for Apple.

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        I was getting copilot pop-ups months ago that were begging me to join. Every update, I have to check the settings again. One Note and Copilot can go suck on some eggs.

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          On, snap. Maybe group policy at work keeps the worst of that at bay (I’ve only seen the CoPilot app show up in the start menu which I immediately removed).

          I don’t have a horse in that fight at home (everything Linux all the time), so I didn’t realize it had reached that point already. Lol, and people still don’t want it.

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            Lol, and people still don’t want it.

            I’m pleasantly surprised that no one else does. I’m usually the outlier in my family and friends. I think the trust level for these corporations has sunk pretty low. 10 years ago, it probably would have been a hit.

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            Corporate/LTS editons of windows don’t have this shit. Microsoft knows better than to bite the hand that feeds it

            Home users can go get fucked though. Been that way for years, why do you think there’s different versions (home, professional, ultimate) of win 7 onwards?

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    Invasive-ass Clippy bullshit profiteering from genocide and forcing itself on the world against everyone’s consent, Gates must be rolling in his grave

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      and our manager sounded so proud to announce it. I just don’t use it, but lowered my standards instead. If they want us to use more ai, then ai quality work is what they’re going to get. It has indirectly made my job easier by helping me give less of a fuck.

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      Of all the LLMs I’ve used for productivity assistance, Copilot is hands down, far and above, the worst. As far as I know, it’s leveraging ChatGPT APIs (correct me if I’m wrong), and even ChatGPT is better than Copilot (not by much).

      Claude has really reigned supreme for my use cases, but I know that’s anecdotal.