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      That doesn’t even make sense. If it’s useless thinking, then why do anything about it?

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    Personally I’d prefer if ‘memes’, if you can call it that, like this one were kept to politics-centered communities.

    In any case, I think the message is true for most if not all countries on the planet. No politician from any major party is a good person, and they most definitely don’t care about you enough to do anything for you. You will probably have a hard time finding any politician that isn’t a liar, or worse, but the major parties are the worst of the worst.

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      There’s a specifically non-political meme comm, if you want.

      As for all politicians being evil, you’re close to correct, but not quite. Establishment Parties support the system they are in, and the DNC and GOP are in the world’s worst Empire. They are quite a lot more evil.

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    Finally someone who speaks the truth, however humans are a lost case, you can’t un-slave mentality without changing the people.

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    The Republicans have all three branches of government and are fucking us over! I know, let’s drag out the both-sides-are-the-same arguments!!

    Take your cynicism and both sides arguments and shove them off your ass.

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    Honestly, I read this thread and can’t comprehend how a civilization as advanced as the United States of America thinks that defending a binary choice of democracy is a good thing to do… It’s impossible to represent a country with a few million people like that, imagine ~300M. Anyway, keep going at each other’s throats for your party color… smh.

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              I don’t blame you, I was educated that it abolished slavery. But there’s a very big “except”. It was partially added to help sway the Confederate states to make them happy that they can keep slaves if they find enough things to arrest them for.

              It’s part of why Jim Crow laws happened. And it’s exactly why America has the highest amount of people in jail than any other nation. Slaves are cheap labor.

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            “indentured servitude” is the euphemism they use.
            Obviously the bestest democracy in the history of the entire universe doesn’t have slavery.

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        No content correct the record bots are downvoting you and a lot of other ppl in this thread, who say anything even slightly negative about them. I’m having to ban a lot of them rn.

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        You’re doing your part in that lol

        Neither party gives a fuck about you; you can call people stupid and say “bUt rEpUbLiCaNs” all you want, it doesn’t make that statement any less true.

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            From Wikipedia:

            Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to Marxism, democracy, anarchism, pluralism, free markets, egalitarianism, communism, liberalism, and socialism, fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.

            Democrats are right-wing, but not far-right. Democrats are not authoritarian or ultranationalist, Democrats are not characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, or belief in a natural social hierarchy. Democrats are not opposed to democracy, egalitarianism, or liberalism.

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              Democrats are not authoritarian or ultranationalist, Democrats are not characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, or belief in a natural social hierarchy

              guys, do i tell him?

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              Democrats are most definitely authoritarian and Ultranationalist. They are also hugely militarist and autocratic, as well as holding a strong belief in hierarchy. They’re also opposed to democracy and egalitarianism.

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                “Authoritarianism is a political system characterized by the rejection of political plurality, the use of strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in democracy, separation of powers, civil liberties, and the rule of law.”

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism

                Democrats do not reject political plurality.

                Democrats do not reduce democracy (rather they increase it by defending voting rights).

                Democrats protect the separation of powers, civil liberties, and the rule of law.

                Democrats do not fit the definition of nationalism, let alone ultranationalism.

                They do not hold strong beliefs in hierarchy, oppose democracy, or oppose egalitarianism. That’s just an outright lie.

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                  Authoritarianism is when the government does stuff. The opposite would be libertarianism where corporations rule and company towns come back and villages get taken over by bears

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      Fascism is capitalism in decay and imperialists are scared of their empire decaying

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        I always find it amusing yet chilling when libs try to distinguish themselves from fascism by labeling it on pretty much everyone other than their own (e.g. AfD, Republicans, center-right, “”“”“far-left”“”“”“”), almost as if they refuse to acknowledge that they’re in the fasch club too, scratched or otherwise.

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        The system as it stands does not support third parties and Democrats are the only hope we have of changing that system without massive bloodshed and suffering.

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        I love how 3% third parties with no chance of upending either party are super effective at killing specifically non-conservative campaigns AND helping checkers-players feel smug faster. Take a bow for being part of today’s problem.

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          Can you name a single non-conservative campaign killed by third parties? You can’t, because it has never happened.

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          Hows it feel to simp for a party that can’t get a 3% advantage on donald fucking Trump? If that was our only option and we are effectively voting at gunpoint then there never was any “democracy” to protect.

          I love how democrats with no interest in catering to their base of voters are super effective at preventing third party and progress candidates from even getting on the ballot or in front of voters, so you can sit there keep saying they have no chance of winning. I love how liberals will excuse voting for the genocidal maniacs you’re convinced are your only option because you’re comfortable enough under this system that you’re willing to work within it and turn your cheek to all of the violence it commits at home and abroad.

          You only care when the genocide comes to your front door, what about your fucking neighbors who are getting evicted and thrown out of their homes because their housing is too valuable to somebody else’s monetary interests to just let them live there in peace? What about the homeless, the working poor, the food insecure, the largest prison population on the planet who coincidentally are legal to use as slave labor? Are they not worth fighting for as long as you aren’t the one on the streets or in prison? In 20 years, are you going to get a “progressive” in office that will offer platitudes about actually treating them like human beings as they do next to nothing about it? Capitalism requires us to live under the threat of homelessness, of imprisonment, of starvation. Our government is completely captured by capitalists who will not allow you to vote this away, because without this level of coercion their system will collapse. All they have to do is make you believe you are not being coerced, and if anyone is then they deserve it actually, and that is precisely the role played by our two parties.

          A better world is possible, but it sure as hell isn’t going to come about through any “solution” sold to us by those who collect vast power and profit within the world as it is. THAT is today’s problem, the refusal to recognize where power lies and what interests it has. Not the third party voters who already see the system for what it is and always has been. Not the one who struggling to bring an end to this system that is designed such that its only material interest is in finding new ways to remove our rights and boosting candidates who will carry this out.

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            Hows it feel to simp for a party that can’t get a 3% advantage on donald fucking Trump?

            Feels better than simping for a party that can’t get 3% of the votes in the first place

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        Thus helping a facist wins. Great move.

        So long as we are an FPTP system with the current 2 options it’s just shooting the non-fascist option in the foot for no reason. Gotta keep non-fascist around so you can actually have a chance at fixing things without getting gulaged.

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    bUt iT’s bEtTeR WhEn dEmOcRaTs aRe iN CoNtRoL BeCaUsE ThErE’s nO FaCiSm!1!1

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      It’s better when Democrats are in control because my brown countrymen aren’t being detained and deported without due process by Democrat politicians

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        no one is; but there are plenty of people who insist that the democrats are better because they dump a little bit less shit on you than the republicans while refusing to admit that shit piles up no matter how little you do it.

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          Less shit sure sounds better than more.

          When I have the luxury of choosing no shit, I do.

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            of course it sounds better; the democrat’s entire schtick is sounding better, but substantively the same.

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              I think if you pay attention you can see that while both aren’t great, one of them is worse.

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                no one’s arguing that one isn’t worse; but there are plenty of people who keep regurgitating this deflecting talking point and that makes it clear thorough the indoctrination has become.

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                  One wants to put us all in concentration camps, the other doesn’t. Hmmm, let’s go with the psycho narcissist concentration option. Gee, I hope it works out for us.

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            Seriously the people in this subreddit cannot seem to comprehend that “less bad” is in fact better than “more bad”

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        they’re kool aide drinking themselves into a single party state. lol

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    Dear wherever you’re from: there’s a 99% chance you live in a token democracy and you’re in denial about it.

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    Haha, I still not sure what to call them.

    1. USAns?
    2. USArians?
    3. USians?

    I think Usans would be the most correct, but they are a people with no name.