Wow. And we’re almost at the halfway point of the month. I wonder if we’ll reach 100k at eom.
I’m calling this one the exodus of st mangione
I like Lemmy, I like that the ratio of tankie scum to normal person is decreasing, but I really don’t like people who worship Luigi.
Have you considered reddit? I hear it’s a great platform for people without any sense of humour.
lol what did it say
Just some very basic moaning about tankies and pro-luigi memes, I don’t remember too well
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Luigi Migratione
People are finally done with reddit’s shit! Thank God and welcome
I’ll just say, the more I hang around Lemmy, the more I enjoy the genuine conversations. It feels like less snark, less joke replies, and just a generally more community-type feeling. Reminds me of when I first tried Reddit after leaving Digg way back when.
Hopefully, us exiles can leave the Reddit back at Reddit.
A democracy, if you can keep it, in a sense. Lemmy is healthy. Time will tell if the idea works, but I think it is a huge advantage tearing away corporate ownership and really investing in a platform that is owned by its users.
I find a bunch of snark here, but it absolutely feels more genuine. With reddit it felt like half the comments I saw were from bots. More than half, maybe.
I hate everyone on lemmy but at least I’m hating people
Yeah, fighting with bots is just boring. At least if a human gets mad at me it’s more real.
Aw. We hate you too.
hey! fuck you! i resent your sentiment somehow and also want you to feel bad!
but seriously I agree.
I feel the exact same, and I’ve been hanging around here for almost two years (the great 3rd party app exodus of ‘23).
This place feels more like a community filled with people versus a firehose of internet wrapped in layers of corporate and right wing BS.
Reddit was almost exclusively read-only for me. Here, I am commenting all the time.
This is one of the reasons I stayed. It was still small enough back then that you actually started to recognize people you had conversations with, and not just the troll farms.
I like a lot of things here better than Reddit. For one thing, I don’t see the stupid buzzwords like literally or cringe in 98% of all posts. There’s no hivemind here…yet. And hopefully there won’t be.
Also not the same 5 memes repeated for 15 years.
MAU? Mostly Anal Users? Martian Appalachian Upholstery? Mass Ass Underwear? Missing Alligator Utensils? Moldy Apple Uterus? Massive Arctic Uranus?
Make Americans Useful.
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Monthly Average Users
as opposed to DAU (Daily) or WAU (Weekly)
For a live product, the number of average users / time is a pretty telling metric.
I wonder what the arc will look like this time.
Monthly ACTIVE Users
Yup, my foggy brain…
Thanks
Reddit refugee here. Can I say Luigi?
It’s more frowned upon to not do so.
Can I say Luigi
Only if you finish in a sock or something.
This is exactly what I was wondering.
It’s more of a requirement than a punishable offense on Lemmy.
Friend, you can say Luigi is a hero.
lemmy.world might have some rules against endorsing violence, but on most Lemmy instances, I can even tell you I hope all the healthcare CEOs are assassinated the same way. No corporate overlords to appease here!
Can you say Luigi lol. Son, you’re required to pledge allegiance to Luigi before every post you make here.
And we love you for it❤️
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You know it’s bad for Reddit when people were even talking about going back to Digg
Digg still exists?
Yup
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Help retain users by discussing more than just politics
Help retain users by discussing more than just politics
One of the things I feel like Lemmy is still missing or is under developed is the niche hobbyist and tech help communities. I’m referring to places users can go to ask questions and start to build up a knowledge base of sorts that people will find and reference. Kind of like how if you want to actually find useful information for something, you used to add “Reddit” to every search to get meaningful results. Hopefully, that can become Lemmy. Assuming of course search engines even index Lemmy well enough
One way to start could be just having people post small tutorials or solutions for popular problems or topics in respective communities. I know the internet has changed a lot but “back in the old days” that was a great way to get engagement going at least on tech forums.
Wouldn’t that be closer to stackexchange?
Well not really, as I’m talking about any type of self-help content not just computers/tech. Any helpful content that people would be able to find vs just all news, politics and memes
search engines hardly index lemmy unfortunately. Probably due to having too much repeated content on different URLs.
Probably due to having too much repeated content on different URLs.
It seems like its gotten better in the last 2 years as I can at least get lemmy results now, and popular instances show up more but yea, still not great.
I have a gimmick sublemmy, !horseblindness@lemmy.world. Post images that may or may not contain horses!
I see no horses posted – oh, right
For real we need more uplifting subs, my feed is just Musk and Trump diarrhea.
I’ve blocked most of it with a keyword filter
I think this is an artifact of what’s oddly the biggest weakness of the fediverse: decentralization.
When I used reddit back pre-api stuff, my front page was 100% niche subs I’d subscribed to, but those niches have trouble le growing here because there’s so many instances.
I was super active in the scuba subreddit. Here on Lemmy, there’s several scuba groups that tried to form, but none of them stuck because they were all on different instances instead of one central location where everyone could work together to make the community.
As a result, most of us haven’t been filtering out 99% of Lemmy because the 1% where we’d be active doesn’t exist. It’s like joining reddit and having your frontpage be /r/all. It’s a shitty experience that g9ves a lot of weight to political posts.
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I don’t think the subs failed to get off the ground because of federation, I think they did because they didn’t have a dedicated person tirelessly filling them with posts and single-handedly carrying them. Because that’s still where we are population wise. 50k+ MAUs is very nice, but not nearly enough for niche subs to be self-sustaining. Look at any small but active Lemmy sub right now and it’s often a single person doing 90% of the posting. The only real way to get a new sub going is to be that person.
At least now we have stuff like Lemmy Federate and places like !newcommunities@lemmy.world and !communitypromo@lemmy.ca that are both fairly active, so getting a new sub off the ground should be much easier than two years ago.
It doesn’t matter almost at all which instance a community is on. People could just unite the different scuba groups into one. Basically any they see fit. I’m not sure the decentralization really causes this effect. Or does it make it too difficult to find communities? I’ve been plenty able to find communities from various instances, at least.
If people have to follow breadcrumbs to find which of the dozen groups is active, if any, very few people are going to join.
On reddit, if you wanted to find a sub for airbrushing, you would type in /r/airbrush. That was it.
On Lemmy, there’s no central location for communities, but even worse is that most of the big instances WILL have a community with that name - it’ll just be a dead community that someone started but never took off, so there’s a bunch of false leads.
Sort by “hot”
Yeah, I feel like people on here have a bad habit of relating even completely unrelated posts back to US politics. But if you keep reading the news then your brain tends to do that.
be the change you want to see. Post and upvote.
Instructions not clear. Posted upvotes.
I guess some people get off on go team go, but to me looking at market share is very corporate thinking. If lemmy is better than reddit (which I think it is) it will just naturally grow, which is great. Whet I’m cheering for is that devs of software and other federated platforms are taking social media away from the business world by doing it better for free - whether that turns out to be lemmy or some other software.
Its still a shame that I will never recommend this place to anyone I know until the community changes here.
Its a bit chicken and the egg cause we likely need one for the other. But with the users proclivity for bans, and blocks you end up with a user base even smaller and discussion that more feels like a battle to be right most of the time because intellectual superiority is looked up to rather than conversation.
I still think a community of people competing to be the most right in every comment section does not lead to actual community and doesn’t even help provide facts or info to most communities when there are not many niches to which people in here can participate in. Objective facts work best not in fandoms but in crafts. Like what glue doesn’t melt Styrofoam when doing prop building not which show or game is best.
I may be alone in this but I yearn for “the normies”.
Be the change you want to see. Host a instance. Show us how it’s done.
I should host an instance. About Apache. To learn how to do Apache configs. Then I could host an instance.
Oh wait.
Spend money I don’t have to open myself to attacks for people I already say I dislike that don’t like to told what to do at all.
No.
Me too, but I still prefer this place to reddit. I have the same exact gripe: those that must be the most right. I’ve just found a lot more of them on reddit than lemmy. I have lost count of the amount of times I start to write something on reddit, then imagine how someone somewhere, from some angle, can decide to be offended if they want to, then just delete the comment. It definitely happens on lemmy too, it’s just in my experience it has happened less here, so I have been more willing to type out comments here. It really sucks that this has not been your experience.
Just keep posting and being the type of person you want to see as a community member here. The other site was exactly like you described above for a very long time!
I can’t be responsible for changing others. That is an unfair request.
I was paraphrasing (see: paraquote, slang) Ghandi. “Be the change you wish to see in the world”.
this is a problem with fediverse in general imho.
the tools admins and users have are blunt (defederate or block). with all sorts of content moderation policies and opinions you will inevitably end up either alienated from everyone or surrounded by people that think and talk just like you.
fediverse does offer many advantages… creating a better online “town square” is just not going to be one of them.
Tool development is one of the things that we’re going to have to go that. Thankfully Creative Energy being poured into server software and apps is something that’s already happening quite natural even that small user base numbers
I have this insane thought that shorter bans but publicly stated when/why/how-long would be more beneficial to keeping a community aligned when it’s all we got. And that it would be harder to abuse and give insight into mods efforts.
But yeah I have said to others I intend to use it more as a link aggregator by effort but not community.
a community of people competing to be the most right in every comment section
I think this depends highly on the type of community. (Although clearly I’m doing it to you right now. Sorry.)
Highly political topics and such are the worst, probably. But others where people come because of a shared interest, like a sport or food or animal or something, a hobby, I think tend to be more chill and mellow.
You would think. I still won’t go back to the gardening community. And will probably just stop participating in anything around here.
The problem is that there is still to few others than those types. The topic seems secondary. The mellow places are where it’s empty.
Maybe it also depends on the topic. But there are always gonna be annoying people everywhere you go in life. 🥲
The topic was how much they hoped my garden withered because I couldn’t afford to fully mulch all of it and was saying I was having to constantly weed the edge of my garden.
They proceeded to gleefully wish harm upon me and hardship for not doing or being exactly like them and as I begged for help from others to not feel alone was told I likely deserved it.Yeah people are truly awful everywhere and not working on getting better.
That sucks. I’m sorry that happened =(
It was like that for me on the Marvel Rivals subreddit on Reddit. I didn’t like all the smurfs (new accounts made by higher ranked players in lower ranked lobbies) but when I complained about it and said lower ranked or more casual players deserve to have fun, too, a bunch of people diminished my experiences, gleefully said they smurf, it’s a skill issue, it’s not a real problem (despite me checking enemy user profiles and sure enough, they’re all experts at this game with barely any time played and all wins in their competitive matches), just to not play, etc. It’s like pro basketball players dunking on little kid community games. They deserve to have fun, too!
Don’t have any advice or anything, and what I said may not have made any sense to people who don’t play the game, just empathizing on how much the internet sucks sometimes and your comment reminded me of that. Now I’m angry just remembering it lol.
Sorry. But yeah. Don’t have an answer but it’s a mess for being a new memeber when it feels communities don’t care to remember that people have to start somewhere.
Sorry that it happened to you too.
Is there a live chart available?
There’s one at fediverse observer and fedidb.
Worth noting is that what counts as an “active user” has changed between now and then. During the Reddit API exodus, an “active user” was a user who had posted or commented in the past month. Now, it includes users who have voted. If the 54k MAU record was set using the first algorithm, it is likely that the MAU using the new algorithm (which includes voting) would have been much higher.
Good point
Huzzah, us lurkers now count towards the global stats!
I think that change was done way back when. Do you have a reference for the algorithm change? I tried a quick search and came out empty.
Probably in the 0.19.3 changelog. There was a bump when LW changed, and I don’t think they’ve updated since
The change was merged in Dec 2023 (see here). The Reddit Exodus was in summer 2023.
Thanks 👍
Zoidberg voice: hooray im helping
It is really awesome here. Like the good ol internet days.
Absolutely. Feels like it’s 2005 again, and you discover all kind of new places on the internet.
Agreed. I hope it doesn’t become so popular that it turns to shit.
Eh. to some degree, enshittification is going to happen as more people come in, because more people = more shitty people. If we want to have the good niche communities that are IMO the only excellent thing about reddit, we’ll have to put up with the fact that that also means a bunch of annoying people use the service.
At least Lemmy has far, far better tools for dealing with them.
Our most precious features is you’ll never have to. If a community turns to shit, they just get defederated. If you can’t find a server that defederates them, you can host it yourself. Your groups will be smaller, and you’ll lose something in the transition, but what you have is what you’ll put up with.
Let’s go Lemmyyyyy!!!
