Not to mention common sense, practicality, cost and long-term consequences.
Maybe he could actually do something about it. Like excommunicating those very religious members of the supreme Court that will support it… Pipe dream. I know.
The Supreme Court is staffed by Evangelicals, which make up the majority of christians in the US of A
Evangelicals and Catholics consider each other heretics and have done so since the reformation.
Edit: The reformation started after the time period historians consider “the middle ages”. Oopsie.
I think barnaclebutt is referring to Amy Coney Barrett, who is openly Catholic. Not sure about the other members of scouts.
Why are we placing blame on Trump when the current situation can be traced back to policies under Biden, such as open borders and the lack of a clear pathway to citizenship for immigrants? It seems we have forgotten the broader context of this issue.
What the hell does “open borders” mean? Do you think Biden didn’t deport people?
Oh no, will Christians listen to their leader The Pope or their leader The Trump?
The Pope is right like a stopped watch, and you know what else is incompatible with Christianity and conscience? The Catholic Church.
Religion itself is incompatible with conscience
So is raping altar boys, though…
Your comment is whataboutism
Yeah, I realized that after posting. I’m just mad at the moment, excuse my violent fantasies for a bit. What I tried to say is: what does it matter what this random old dude thinks of anything regarding anything to do with morality or conscience? He is the head of the worst institution in the last 2000 years or so grace the rest of us with their presence, whose only contributions to society is the stifling of progress, endless wars waged in the name of their imaginary friend because someone else (usually brown people) believe in THE SAME FUCKING IMAGINARY FRIEND, and the protection of child-rapists and other abusing vermin. Oh how I long for the day when the basilica of st. peter burns to the ground along with their corrupt institution.
I sure understand your frustration. The reason why it matters what the pope says is that a lot of people following trump are strong believers in the church. So the church saying it, may give that speech additional weight for exactly these people.
I was about to say that catholics aren’t as politically fucked as the evangelicals, but I looked up the data and the difference is down to 5%.
When I was young and personally knew some catholics, they seemed so much more fun than the stuffy evangelicals. Their parents voted for Democrats and were much more permissive with their kids compared to protestants. Either my experience is fairly unique or catholics have changed.
I know evangelical and protestant don’t mean the same thing but at least where I grew up almost all the protestants were evangelical or worse. Yeah it gets worse.
Please forgive the source, it doesn’t appear to be biased.
The Pope’s selective outrage reeks of ecclesiastical theater—denouncing deportations while his own empire sits on centuries of plundered gold and complicit silence as right-wing zealots twist scripture into shackles. Charity as performance art can’t mask the Vatican’s hoarded billions or its failure to dismantle systems that create modern Exodus crises.
Trump’s deportation fetish mirrors Roman circus politics—distract the plebs with bloodsport while oligarchs pick their pockets. State-sanctioned scapegoating isn’t governance; it’s the death rattle of empires too bankrupt to fix real problems.
Invoking the Holy Family’s refugee plight? Sacred irony—today’s “Christians” would’ve barred Mary at the border for “illegal entry” and called Herod a patriot. Scripture as a bludgeon only works if you ignore the Beatitudes.
Christian nationalism’s endgame? Theocratic feudalism—crucifixes on flags, borders as moats, and Lazarus left to rot. Piety as a profit model demands enemies, not empathy.
I distinctly remember a similarly high quality speech receiving this comment.
bro took off his shirt to write this
Yeah, let’s ignore that Trump is an adulterer and rapist, Pope.
The Vatican has gone woke…
The Pope doesnt represent REAL CATHOLICS! DONALD TRUMP DOES! Him and ALL his Marriages and Wealth!
mtsw on Bluesky:
Since JD Vance just converted to Catholicism 5 minutes ago, he might not know this: the Pope authoring a letter where he goes out of his way to correct you, specifically, is considered “bad” in the Catholic tradition
When the pope told Henry VIII that what Henry wanted to do was a no-no, Henry separated, created Church of England, and made himself its head. What do we think Trump will call the new Christian denomination in America and what will be the title of its head?
It already exists and it’s called Evangelicals
The American civil religion is already basically that
What do we think Trump will call the new Christian denomination in America and what will be the title of its head?
It’s going to involve the name Trump. Donny will be the head of it.
Most of the US doesn’t care what the pope has to say.
True, but there are some areas in the deep South where Calothicism is a big cultural influence. However, there is also quite a bit of friction between Calothicism and some more evangelical groups in those same areas.
I think this could at least cause some meaningful friction to public opinion in some very Pro-Trumo areas. Who knows how things will land while people resolve their confrontation with the cognitive dissonance, but friction is good.
Catholicism in the deep south is nowhere near as possible like Baptist or Methodist. Most of the deep south doesn’t even consider Catholicism to be catholic. The KKK targeted catholics under this belief.
He’s already the second coming of Jesus to a sizeable part of the US evangelical demographic.
One has to have a conscience to be bothered by it…
If I go pitch a tent in Vatican City and take up permanent residence there, presumably he will order the Swiss Guard not to deport me. Good to know.
but you see, american “christianity” is different. maga nuts and the far right would say ‘better’ or the only ‘true’ kind.
and “conscience”, well that’s “con”+“science”, they don’t believe in science, so toss that out. leaving only “con” which is exactly what their game is.
