three raspberries pi running k3s is good enough for me
To be fair, also love the mini pc’s and having a larger NAS. For me the PoE capabilities of the Pi’s are definitely the reason I use them
Ha ha
Under-complicated -> over-complicated -> under-complicated.
There’s a ‘just right’ that I think you skipped through.
I need a kubernetes cluster with high availability, load balancing and horizontal pod autoscaling, because that is something I want to learn. I don’t care that it’s just for wife’s home-made dog collars webshop.
You can do it on a handful of Raspberry Pis rather than one, then.
I don’t get this; a Pi isn’t even in the same conversation as an old rackmount server you can get for free. You couldn’t stuff half the compute, ram and storage into a Pi or a dozen Pis for 10X the cost of grabbing something off eBay for a hundred bucks.
That’s if the Rpi Foundation is deigning to let us peasants even buy them these days.
The problem is that server will probably use more electricity, it’ll be clunky to store, and it’s going to be loud as fuck.
I have an old rackmount server I got for free. Dual Xeon X5650s, 192GB of RAM, four 8TB HDDs, and a pair of 250GB SSDs. I can only use it in the basement because it’s too loud to run anywhere else, but even then, it’s currently off because it trips its circuit breaker under heavy load.
A power strip full of Pis in a k3s cluster doesn’t do that. I used a 2GB model 4 for the control plane and 3Bs as the workers.
Why do you think you got it for free ;)
Eh, it was good when I got it. Who am I to turn down a free dual socket server though? :)
Useful in winter I suppose!
But I have a heat pump that is more efficient
If it trips circuit breakers it’s using a terrifying amount of power. Honestly with energy prices I am starting to think old stuff is actually becoming a bad value in some cases.
Imagine, if you will, a Beowulf cluster of Raspberry Pis!
A man of culture, I see!
Yeah that’s basically it for me. I have a collection of dev boards, old hardware and stuff other people were tossing out set up for a variety of purposes (Kubernetes clusters, two build farms, network boot, etc.). None of it is because I feel I “need” any of that for self hosting. In practice two old desktops with a bunch of drives would be perfectly capable of providing everything I need including redundancy. I have all that stuff because I’m learning and experimenting.
This is the way
Wait, you can host a website on a raspberry pi !? But is it really cheaper than shared hosting, for instance? And even then, quality-wise, it cannot be that good, can it?
You can definitely run a low traffic website with a Pi. You can run Minecraft Servers and such on Pis. Especially on Pi4s.
My understanding is raspberrypi.com is hosted on raspberry pis. It’s a Linux computer; it can do anything a Linux computer can do.
You can host a website on a lot less, even. But it entirely depends on what you’re hosting and the load. Basically anything can host a bunch of static pages, so if your site is just that, basically anything will do. You could probably even do a WordPress site with the right caching plugins and serve a reasonable amount of traffic. The first limit you’ll hit realistically is your uplink, not your webserver CPU.
Same as a 4x CPU with 8GB ram VPS.
Unless bandwidth is a limiting factor.
But the quality of a website is about code. Not about hardwareYou see, bits sent from an x86 have 10% more antioxidants…
I had a website serve me oxidised bits. My computer BSODd and now I have herpes.
Need those antioxidants
Why not rasberry pi with kubernetes?
I’ve been enjoying Jeff Geerling’s ongoing experiments with his 10" Raspberry Pi mini rack.
It doesn’t work for me since all of my network equipment is 19" and there’s no point in having two racks but having a 10" standard is still a great idea!
Off-topic but can you tell me why your name is red? I use Voyager and your name is red, it should mean something, right?
It denotes me as an admin. I wish it wouldn’t.
Or you learn proxmox and running everything as a VM
Just learn docker
Docker is so bad. I don’t think a lot of you young bloods understand that. The system is so incredibly fragmented. Tools like Portainer are great, but they’re a super pain in the ass to use with tools/software that include a dockerfile vs a compose file. There’s no interoperability between the two which makes it insurmountably time-consuming and stupid to deal with certain projects because they’re made for a specific build environment which is just antithetical to good computing.
Like right now, I have Portainer up. I want to test out Coolify. I check out templates? Damn, not there. Now I gotta add my own template manually. Ok, cool. Half way done. Oops. It expects a docker-compose.yml. The Coolify repository only has a Dockerfile. Damn, now I have to make a custom template. Oh well, not a big deal. Plop in the Dockerfile from the repository, and click “deploy.” OOPS! ERROR: “failed to deploy a stack: service “soketi” has neither an image nor a build context specified: invalid compose project.” Well fuck… Ok, whatever. Not the biggest of deals. Let me search for an image of “soketi” using dockerhub. Well fuck. There are 3 images which haven’t been updated in several years. Awesome. Which one do I need? The echo-server? The network-watcher? PWS?
Like, do you see the issue here? There’s nothing about docker that’s straightforward at all. It fails in so many aspects it’s insane that its so popular.
Maybe I’m an idiot (high possibility) but I couldn’t even get the instance of homebridge docker to work. However, it had zero problems running on hypervisor. You aren’t alone.
I’m coming to appreciate Hyper-V more and more to be honest. It’s a very mature virtualization environment. The only issue I have with it is the inability to do GPU-passthrough. Once they figure that one out, I probably won’t bother with anything else.
The HAT-ability of RPi makes them enough for me. You can add sata ports, PCIe, and more with a simple HAT.
any recommendations on hats for sata?
An n100 PC is much better than that crapberry pi
jesus christ what a nice burn
Certainly tempted by one, any particular ones to look for? UK here, currys out of stock on an MSI one and Amazon is full of names I have never heard of and half the time it comes with Windows pro which is just a waste of money buying with the hardware.
N100 is two years old now. If you’re going to suggest a mini PC, at least suggest one with a current gen CPU.
I was thinking more about a motherboard with that cpu, but we can go with the n150 then
This struggle usually takes place over a weekend.
This guy selfhosts
I had to buy a lenovo thinkcentre mini because was cheaper than a brandnew raspberry pi.
Raspberry Pis are way overhyped and overpriced.
Also this is totally wrong. Once you start it just keeps growing unless there is some other factor.
Yes, you can optimize a lot. Especially with Linux. I did the same and even started to replace program that did too much, bloated, with my own programs. To speed up the development I did it with AI and Cursor.
a pie is neat. thats it. does it have enough ram for hosting & running all your containers? no.
