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- firefox@lemmy.world
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- firefox@lemmy.world
This post needs to get to 666 upvotes and stay there.
too late
It’s at 666 for me.
its at 672 here, and 667 on lemmy.ml
Time to remove our upvotes. 😂
I downvote your upvote!
Brave? The browser that hides ads and substitutes their own? The one that keeps you private from Google AdSense so they can sell your data themselves? The one that keeps their Chromium build lean, so that you don’t notice the crypto miner running along side of it?
The fucking PayPal Honey of browsers? When the fuck did they ever look good? They’re like the “Banzai Buddy” of the HTML5 era
CEO is a bigot, too.
No elaboration on that ?
I thought it was common knowledge; he donated to some anti-LGBTQ political campaigns in the US which ultimately lead him to resign from Mozilla and start up his own browser. Which is good enough reason in my opinion to avoid it regardless of what ever else might be good about Brave.
Thanks for elaborating & you were kind enough to inform (unlike the fascist guttrotten clowns who disliked)
They managed to piss off Tom Scott.
A thing I had not previously considered was possible.
Wait what? Imma need to see that
Their “Tip Me” system was opt-out.
In other words, they’d slap a “give this person money” button on other people’s websites, and then collect the money themselves, and even if they did send along every last cent to the actual person, that’s pretty well fucked.
What a pile of steaming bullshit
Broke one of the golden rules of advertising (at least the advertising lessons I learned from an old advertising guy I knew a long time ago)
Never mention your competition in your advertising … because every time you do, you’ve given them free advertising.
And it’s just bad to say, for example, about other person or country. Like some candidate for president in other liberal country will say “yes, we have issues, but hey, at least we are not like shitty Texas where abortion mostly illegal, so vote for us!”
Fox around and find out
Fennec for the phone, Qutebrowser for the desktop. Life is good.
Just curious, why Fennec for phones?
How is it more private, when the browser is the one handling your data to show you ads, on top of the websites trying to do the same. So, extra ads? Wtf.
Brave is also just essentially rebranded Chromium funded by an anti-LGBTQ+ & anti-DEI right-wing CEO.
Brave comes with built in ad blocking.
Not impressive
The same Brave founded by the anti-LGBTQ+ & anti-DEI CEO that doesn’t believe that gay people should have the same rights as straight people? Color me shocked!
And they made a donation to an anti gay marraige org on mozillas behalf.
Incorrect, he was CEO in 2014
WTF‽ Were they trying to frame Mozilla as anti-LGBT?
CEO was a cofounder of Mozilla Foundation. I think this is partly why he was pressured out shortly after taking the position.
Yep, Brave is the butt-hurt edgelord of browsers.
If you’re gonna get a browser with a brave-like experience, might as well get a Firefox based one like Zen.
Looks like that is desktop only
Sadly. It is still in beta though, so it’s still possible for a mobile version in the future. There’s a few discussions on the github asking about mobile support (no responses).
Will there be mobile version for Zen Browser?
At the moment, our team does not have the time or resources to develop Android or iOS versions of Zen Browser. Additionally, we believe that Zen’s unique features, particularly its design around vertical tabs, do not translate well to the mobile form factor. As such, we do not currently have plans to develop a mobile version of Zen Browser.
That’s exactly what I was thinking, there’s nothing in Zen that would add any value to Firefox on mobile.
How about no
Either Firefox with Arkenfox userjs or Librewolf
Librewolf stopped showing my bookmarks bar randomly and never came back no matter what I tried… Switched to waterfox after a while of dealing with no bar.
I’ve never heard of Arkenfox userjs. Thank you for that.
Desperate much??
Chromium?
No-ium
It honestly might be true
Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy. They could be worse but they also could be way better.
Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy.
Okay, I’ll bite: how does Firefox suck in terms of privacy?
The main problem is the telemetry and targeted advertising.
However, it also could have a bit better defaults from a fingerprinting resistance perspective.
The targeted advertising happens locally in your browser. It doesn’t upload your data to anywhere, so I don’t see how that’s relevant for privacy.
Similarly, I find it hard to imagine that they’d be able to personally identify a person from what they send in telemetry (see
about:telemetry
). I guess, if you install an add-on called “I’m Seymour Skinner from Springfield, USA”, then they could, but even then, worst-case they know when you use the browser…
“Was getting tired Brave, and noticed they mentioned Firefox in their ads. Was curious what that was and upon launching Firefox, immediately I felt something, my disappointment is no longer immeasurable, and my day is no longer ruined!”
brave = 0/5 🤮
Firefox = 6/5 😎
“Forget the fox!”
… “Contains ads”
No, I don’t think I will.
It’s on Chromium so I will not use them
Only reason I use it is because it’s seemingly the only browser on iOS that blocks YouTube ads, and allows for background play without paying for Premium.
If anyone knows how to do the same via Firefox (iOS), I’m all ears!
Wait is this extension not available on iOS? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/video-background-play-fix/
no extensions on ios
No extension on iOS because apple prohibits browser engines from being distributed in their apps. Every browser there is a reskin of Safari
Eww, man apple is sleezy.
Orion Browser can use Firefox extensions on iOS.
Is this the one?
Yep!
There’s a Safari extension in the App Store called vinegar that can do those things. AdGuard is another Safari extension that works well as an adblocker.
Thanks, I’ll check them out!
Based on the description, this is the one you’re referring to?
These two are exactly what I use on iOS also
unfortunately firefox numbers are still going down, the manufest v3 bounce never really happened
I have been using Brave for the last year and I did like it as a mobile browser. But today I noticed that when I was searching about abortion and etopic pregnancy (fact checking a really dumb article) that all of a sudden their AI crap was throwing “no results available” errors. I checked some other left leaning topics and sure enough it no longer gives you AI results. So I immediately uninstalled that shit from my phone because fuck them.
Is not having AI results really a bad thing?
Not at all. I never wanted to see AI and it kept turning itself back on this was just the final push for me to uninstall it.
I’m guessing it’s more about the clear bias on display, wherein certain topics are suppressed
Given the ceo this shouldn’t come as a shock.
It’s technically correct with all of these but extremely disingenuous.
The real good: Baked in Youtube ad-blocking with a full dev team playing keep up with youtube Better at anti-fingerprinting Built-in mediocre TOR support.
The real bad: They will sell your data. They will sell your data from their VPN
The rest of their bad is optional. Don’t use them for search and don’t use their crypto.
If you’re going to use them, at least keep a fully equivalently outfitted copy of firefox, you don’t want to get stuck if they finally decide to turn full evil.
if they finally decide to turn full evil.
Yeah this is the brave experience. Free and open source product that behaves as advertised… from a company that acts like they’re perpetually on the brink of fucking you over. Really hope this doesn’t happen, brave’s approach to antifingerprinting is actually quite interesting and completely different to what we see in the firefox-based hardened browsers.
I honestly really like what they do with the fingerprinting. But it’s just a straight trade. Now amazon can’t follow me directly, but Brave will certainly sell Amazon the info that I shopped at Home Depot looking for discontinued air filters :)
FF fingerprinting with UO and privacy badger are by no means bad, they are actually quite acceptable.
What does privacy badger do that isn’t covered by UO? Is it worth it to install privacy badger if I already use a browser like librewolf that nukes all data every time it’s restarted?
It’s EFF’s tracker blocker. All they have is their name, so I have a lot of trust in them. I use it in concert with chrome and firefox based browsers. In FF it tightens up the tracking a bit. Doesn’t eat much ram/time.
Out of the ling of things I will never trust, free VPN is near the top of the list
Kind of funny they list their built-in, paid VPN as a positive feature and not a negative. Maybe they were running out of good things to say about… Themselves.
Granted, Mozilla also shot themselves in the foot by saying Firefox was better for not blocking ads by default, but that’s a different story for a different day
Points 1 and 2 are absolutely on FF. You can also set it to private by default. This is not a factual graphic.
Firefox started blocking YouTube ads without plugins?
You can also set it to
Grandma isn’t going to go into security settings. I really with FF would just make it the default on install.
Everything in that list can easily be made the same, but they’re not the same without some basic knowledge of wanting it.
Grandma isn’t going to use Brave either.
Nor is she going to click on ads to “earn” crypto coins.
I mean, you could do this with anything
nazism:
-✅️ Very terrifying and intimidating uniforms
Every other ideology:
-❌️ Does not have terrifying and intimidating uniforms*
*According to opinions of career nazis
This is what Brave is doing 🙄
Well, actually it should be:
-❌️ Limited or no terrifying and intimidating uniforms
Firefox does block trackers by default, but apparently that’s “limited protection”, according to who the fuck knows, so it gets the ❌.