• Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    4 months ago

    It honestly might be true

    Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy. They could be worse but they also could be way better.

    • irreticent@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy.

      Okay, I’ll bite: how does Firefox suck in terms of privacy?

      • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        4 months ago

        The main problem is the telemetry and targeted advertising.

        However, it also could have a bit better defaults from a fingerprinting resistance perspective.

        • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          4 months ago

          The targeted advertising happens locally in your browser. It doesn’t upload your data to anywhere, so I don’t see how that’s relevant for privacy.

          Similarly, I find it hard to imagine that they’d be able to personally identify a person from what they send in telemetry (see about:telemetry). I guess, if you install an add-on called “I’m Seymour Skinner from Springfield, USA”, then they could, but even then, worst-case they know when you use the browser…

  • borth@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    How is it more private, when the browser is the one handling your data to show you ads, on top of the websites trying to do the same. So, extra ads? Wtf.

  • John Richard@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 months ago

    The same Brave founded by the anti-LGBTQ+ & anti-DEI CEO that doesn’t believe that gay people should have the same rights as straight people? Color me shocked!

  • unalivejoy@lemm.eeEnglish
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    4 months ago

    If you’re gonna get a browser with a brave-like experience, might as well get a Firefox based one like Zen.

      • Zidane@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        4 months ago

        Librewolf stopped showing my bookmarks bar randomly and never came back no matter what I tried… Switched to waterfox after a while of dealing with no bar.

      • unalivejoy@lemm.eeEnglish
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        4 months ago

        Sadly. It is still in beta though, so it’s still possible for a mobile version in the future. There’s a few discussions on the github asking about mobile support (no responses).

        • Zloubida@lemmy.world
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          4 months ago

          Will there be mobile version for Zen Browser?

          At the moment, our team does not have the time or resources to develop Android or iOS versions of Zen Browser. Additionally, we believe that Zen’s unique features, particularly its design around vertical tabs, do not translate well to the mobile form factor. As such, we do not currently have plans to develop a mobile version of Zen Browser.

          Source

          • Bilb!@lem.monsterEnglish
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            4 months ago

            That’s exactly what I was thinking, there’s nothing in Zen that would add any value to Firefox on mobile.

  • Aviandelight @mander.xyz
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    4 months ago

    I have been using Brave for the last year and I did like it as a mobile browser. But today I noticed that when I was searching about abortion and etopic pregnancy (fact checking a really dumb article) that all of a sudden their AI crap was throwing “no results available” errors. I checked some other left leaning topics and sure enough it no longer gives you AI results. So I immediately uninstalled that shit from my phone because fuck them.

    • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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      4 months ago

      Points 1 and 2 are absolutely on FF. You can also set it to private by default. This is not a factual graphic.

      • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        4 months ago

        Firefox started blocking YouTube ads without plugins?

        You can also set it to

        Grandma isn’t going to go into security settings. I really with FF would just make it the default on install.

        Everything in that list can easily be made the same, but they’re not the same without some basic knowledge of wanting it.

        • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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          4 months ago

          Grandma isn’t going to use Brave either.
          Nor is she going to click on ads to “earn” crypto coins.

    • LWD@lemm.ee
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      4 months ago

      Kind of funny they list their built-in, paid VPN as a positive feature and not a negative. Maybe they were running out of good things to say about… Themselves.

      Granted, Mozilla also shot themselves in the foot by saying Firefox was better for not blocking ads by default, but that’s a different story for a different day

      • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        4 months ago

        Well, actually it should be:

        -❌️ Limited or no terrifying and intimidating uniforms

        Firefox does block trackers by default, but apparently that’s “limited protection”, according to who the fuck knows, so it gets the ❌.

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      4 months ago

      The real good: Baked in Youtube ad-blocking with a full dev team playing keep up with youtube Better at anti-fingerprinting Built-in mediocre TOR support.

      The real bad: They will sell your data. They will sell your data from their VPN

      The rest of their bad is optional. Don’t use them for search and don’t use their crypto.

      If you’re going to use them, at least keep a fully equivalently outfitted copy of firefox, you don’t want to get stuck if they finally decide to turn full evil.

      • renzev@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        4 months ago

        if they finally decide to turn full evil.

        Yeah this is the brave experience. Free and open source product that behaves as advertised… from a company that acts like they’re perpetually on the brink of fucking you over. Really hope this doesn’t happen, brave’s approach to antifingerprinting is actually quite interesting and completely different to what we see in the firefox-based hardened browsers.

        • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          4 months ago

          I honestly really like what they do with the fingerprinting. But it’s just a straight trade. Now amazon can’t follow me directly, but Brave will certainly sell Amazon the info that I shopped at Home Depot looking for discontinued air filters :)

          FF fingerprinting with UO and privacy badger are by no means bad, they are actually quite acceptable.

          • renzev@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            4 months ago

            What does privacy badger do that isn’t covered by UO? Is it worth it to install privacy badger if I already use a browser like librewolf that nukes all data every time it’s restarted?

            • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
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              4 months ago

              It’s EFF’s tracker blocker. All they have is their name, so I have a lot of trust in them. I use it in concert with chrome and firefox based browsers. In FF it tightens up the tracking a bit. Doesn’t eat much ram/time.