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Greenpepper@beehaw.org to Technology@beehaw.orgEnglish · 3 months ago

Chinese AI lab DeepSeek massively undercuts OpenAI on pricing — and that's spooking tech stocks

www.businessinsider.com

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Chinese AI lab DeepSeek massively undercuts OpenAI on pricing — and that's spooking tech stocks

www.businessinsider.com

Greenpepper@beehaw.org to Technology@beehaw.orgEnglish · 3 months ago
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DeepSeek challenges OpenAI with drastically cheaper models, prompting discussions on the viability of proprietary versus open-source AI efforts.
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    The article mentions the cost of tokens to end users, not training time.

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      Ah ok, I didn’t catch that. Other articles were discussing v3’s training using only 2.8M GPU hours.

      https://www.ft.com/content/c82933fe-be28-463b-8336-d71a2ff5bbbf

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        Until this has been independently verified, I have my doubts. This wouldn’t be the first time for China to vastly exaggerate its technological capabilities.

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          Deepseek seems to have done a clever thing w.r.t. training data, by having the model train on data that was emitted by other LLMs (as far as I’ve heard). That means there is sort of “quality-pass”, filtering out a lot of the definitely bogus data. That probably leads to a smaller model, and thus less training hours.

          Google engineers put out a paper on this technique recently as well.

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