I don’t know if I’m going crazy but looking at the current situation in the world … please tell me that I’m overexagurating

  • Hubi@feddit.org
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    5 days ago

    please tell me that I’m overexagurating

    You’re overexaggerating.

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    3 days ago

    When Trump was elected again I spent about 3 weeks living with an existential dread I’ve never in my life felt before.

    Whenever it happens, it is coming.

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Nah, there won’t be WW3. Instead we get countries sabotaging each other via hacking critical infrastructure, proxy wars, propaganda, trade wars.

    I doubt there will ever be a direct “hot war” between the top five nuclear powers ever again.

    WW3 is not what’s gonna kill people, climate change is more likely gonna be humanity’s downfall.

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    The situation today is nowhere near as bad as the Cold War.

    Think of it this way. All of the 0.01%ers in china, USA and Russia share the same tastes and values. Think any of them are really hot to blow up their nice places on the Rivera?

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    You are probably overexaggerating.
    There are increased conflicts over the world but no signs of a world war.

    First there are no willing candidates for it. Not even Russia which is engaged in a war is willing to make the push to engage NATO, which is the closest to a world war we would get.
    Neither is Iran willing to go into war which was very obvious after their actions when Israel made ample opportunities for them to escalate conflict.
    And for China… well war is bad for business, and China really likes doing business.

    However the US with Trump at the helm. 🤷 Who the fuck knows. Maybe not world war but I am adding military occupation of Panama and Greenland to my bingo just in case.

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    In 2001 there was that 9/11 thing and it sounded like WW3 had just started. Turns out, it didn’t. Well, lots of things did happen as a result of it, but WW3 wasn’t one of them. Soon after that, USA was involved in a number of wars in the middle east and it felt like WW3 had just started. Again, it didn’t. Some time around 2010s the tension between North Korea and South Korea was getting pretty intense, and a friend of mine started talking WW3… As usual, WW3 didn’t start.

    At the moment, the situation in Ukraine feels just like all the other major incidents, but we’ll see how it works out. If you expose your mind to tabloid journalism, it begins to feel like the entire world is about to explode. History has a tendency of repeating itself, so I suggest reading about the things that lead to WW1 and WW2. Once, you’ve done that, you’ll begin to pay attention to certain signs and start ignoring most of the nonsense tabloids keep writing about.

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      That’s just survivorship bias, you didn’t live through the worlds where all those things escalated into flat out war, you dimension skipping hippie.

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          think about all your parallel selves that you doomed to fiery fate with your picky antics

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            There are infinitely many ways to live a nice life and infinitely many ways to suffer. Every possibility happens and is equally real and important. If you save one universe from a horrible doom, there are always more that will suffer an even worse fate.

            The multiverse is a truly vast place, so anything you do or don’t do is less than a drop in the ocean. What matters is how your decisions and interactions affect you.

  • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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    You’re not overexagerating, the property crisis in the imperial core is becoming so severe that there are only 2 solutions, either the people rebel against its ruling class or they side with them and engage in yet another settler project. In my honest opinion, the latter seems like the most probably outcome, its already very advanced in Palestine and its starting in Syria.

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    Star Trek says that we shouldn’t expect World War 3 until 2026, so we’ve got 1 more year to live to the fullest before then.

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    I am personally looking for a few things that will concern me about escalation:

    • Japan and Finland making active land claims to Russia (actively reoccupying disputed land with troops)

    • Europe putting peace keepers in Western Ukraine (which will create a casus belli for war with Russia), specifically France and the UK. I mean, Poland as well, but if Poland says they are putting peacekeeping troops in Ukraine, Russia should either back off or assume war.

    • South Korean troops in Ukraine. (Ridiculous given their current chaos, but stranger things have happened in the last year).

    Other than that, the russian frog has been very well boiled for 3 years. Even China has probably gone back to the drawing board on a taiwan invasion, and added a delay until 10 millions drones are available.

    I do have concerns trump will pull the us back in europe, making the second item above possible if not likely. The first trump presidency shook us primacy in europe, and the second may see it start to unravel. If europe has to take russia alone, the us should consider china a personal problem from now on (as well as any other concerns not near europe), as no one will see value in going to war with a fair-weather ally.

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      <i>Finland making active land claims to Russia (actively reoccupying disputed land with troops)</i>

      I can guarantee you that there is no territory the Finns would try to reclaim from Russia. The Continuation war pretty much sated any future thought to regain territory seized by the Soviet Union

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      Finland won’t make any claims. This much is certain.

      The only way we would even consider restoring the stolen lands would be IF the Russian Federation falls and IF the initiative for reunification would come from the Karelian Republic.

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          That was pretty wild development, yes. But still, we will not make any territorial claims. Doing so would effectively render the protection provided by NATO’s Article 5 null. We would once again be alone against a nuclear power with much larger resources than we could ever have.

          So we won’t be doing that.

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      Can you link me to more information about there being south korean troops in ukraine? I knew about the north korean troops.

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    …i think the early stages will be fuzzy over the next four years but the `states will be fully engaged within six…

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    You never really know, it’s plausible. But I doubt it. It doesn’t seem any more likely now than it did in 2016.

    Ceasefire in Gaza for a minimum of 6 weeks (if I understood the news correctly) is huge. That conflict might be close to over if we’re lucky.

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    I would say world war is still years away, but if SK in your name means slovakia then comfort yourself that you might find yourself in the early BRICS block vs US empire wars, so hopefully it’ll be over without too much war in your country soon.

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    I highly doubt that WWIII will happen (within the next few years), however I forsee the next several years to not be peacful. There will be several (regional/civil) despites that will most likley occur and the chances of any of them escalating is highly unlikley. Here are the conflicts I forsee:

    • Continued Syrian Civil War: wont be pretty but escalation is unlikely
    • Palestinian occupation: Will absolutely continue to be horrific but none of the neighboring Arab counties care enough to escalate (or risk US aid)
    • Russia/Ukraine war: Russia will get some territory and thats about it, probrally just the Russian majority areas. After that the EU will intimidate Russia to back off.
    • India/China border dispute: They’ll make a lot of noise, actural fighting is unlikely
    • US/Canada/Mexico/Greenland conflict: Who knows tbh, most likley Trump is running off his mouth as always
    • China/Taiwan: I severly doubt it, in addition the US is moving microchip manufacturing to the US so strategic value may loosen

    Worst case scenario here is a full blown war between the EU and Russia, the US likley wont get involved (Trump doesnt care about Europe) and neither will China (both counties might send aid respectively). It would probrally end with Russia surrendering followed by them loosing no land and maybe a regime change plus some political reforms.

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      Russia/Ukraine war: Russia will get some territory and thats about it, probrally just the Russian majority areas. After that the EU will intimidate Russia to back off.

      How do you imagine the EU will do that exactly? The EU has no military industrial capacity to speak of, it doesn’t have access to cheap energy, and it’s becoming politically unstable. A far more likely scenario here is that the EU starts breaking up, and nationalist parties start realigning their countries towards Russia because the US will leave EU to hang.

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          It’s a highly unlikely scenario that Russia would want to expand the war pat Ukraine, and everybody with a functioning brain understands that. What will happen is that Russia will take over all the territory in Ukraine that’s either pro Russian or neutral.

          The rest will be left as a problem for the west to deal with. It’s going to be a dysfunctional rump state that’s not economically self sufficient, and where there will be massive resentment towards the west over the betrayal. If Europe allows it to fall then they will be faced with a new refugee crisis, and if they don’t then it’s an economic black hole that they have to keep pouring money into. Either scenario will only make the already desperate economic situation in Europe even worse than it is now.

          It’s going to be easy for Russia to make deals with individual countries as public unrest in Europe continues to grow. Hungary and Slovakia have already flipped to Russia, it’s likely only a matter of time before Romania, Czech Republic, Germany, and France do as well. At that point we’re looking at the end of EU, and possibly the end of NATO as well. Especially given that the US will almost certainly be pulling back under Trump.

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      Russia/Ukraine war: Russia will get some territory and thats about it, probrally just the Russian majority areas. After that the EU will intimidate Russia to back off.

      This is one may cool down. Definitely would not have under Harris. This is the big ww3 fear.

      India/China border dispute: They’ll make a lot of noise, actural fighting is unlikely

      They have resolved their territorial dispute, or at least made a major agreement that mostly resolves it.