Apple announced the iPhone 17e with an Israelli chip | The Jerusalem Post
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The new iPhone 17 model supports Apple’s AI tools, features faster wireless charging, and includes the new C1X modem developed by the company’s silicon team.
  • whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
    222·
    21 hours ago

    The headline is more than a little misleading.

    Alongside the main processor, the iPhone 17e includes two critical developments by Apple’s silicon teams: The N1 wireless connectivity chip and the C1X cellular modem. These two chips, designed to grant Apple technological independence vis-à-vis external suppliers, were developed in close cooperation with engineers from Apple’s development center in Israel.

    It’s not an Israeli chip any more than other chips designed by companies with engineering groups in Israel are.

    Which is all of the phone, tablet, laptop and whatever socs and cpus iirc.

    It’s also not clear which chip the headline is talking about, so maybe not one to take seriously…

      • whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
        111·
        21 hours ago

        I don’t know of any modern soc type semiconductor manufacturer without some Israeli connection at least on the level of what’s described in this article “ cooperation with engineers from … development center in Israel”.

        Open to being wrong here but I think even manufacturers of non-soc ics like op amps and ttl and discrete components like transistors and diodes have this degree of connection (I’m thinking specifically of onsemi who make all the Fairchild stuff here!)

          • whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
            9·
            20 hours ago

            Huawei famously ran an Israel office for a long time, idk about xiaomi but smic usually works in nations they’re sanctioned in through shells like (at least in the past) Israel microwave company.

            The point isn’t to find the one pure company but to recognize the reality of semiconductor manufacturing and development at this moment being insanely integrated across every imaginable border and take a more nuanced and serious view of the impact a chip could have on your life than “chip tied to Israel, chip and stuff it’s in bad”

            That’s not to say your replies could be reasonably distilled down to that mischaracterization, just that I’m hoping people come away thinking they should think of more than weather something has a tie to the bad country.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
              10·
              20 hours ago

              But we’re talking about today, not the past. Last I looked, Huawei has no business with Israel right now. China also explicitly told companies to not use US and Israeli tech https://www.reuters.com/world/china/beijing-tells-chinese-firms-stop-using-us-israeli-cybersecurity-software-sources-2026-01-14/

              I think it’s absolutely the point to use tech stacks outside US and Israeli control because these are bad actors, and any technology associated with them cannot be trusted.

              • whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
                3·
                19 hours ago

                That’s a pretty recent change, but I take your point that chip manufacturing with no ties to Israel may exist.

                To the main point, while it could be a good idea in theory to avoid devices with chips tied to Israel and the us, in practice that would lead people away from iphones and pixels that do best against graphite and cellebrite which would be bad.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
                  71·
                  18 hours ago

                  I don’t really see a problem with steering people away from iphones, but older pixels with graphineos are probably a safe enough device to own right now.

  • AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world
    101·
    21 hours ago

    At this stage why would anyone trust a hand-held communication device with any connection to Israel?

  • onlinepersona@programming.devEnglish
    38·
    22 hours ago

    How are hippies going to survive this? On the one hand, they need an overpriced piece of hardware with rounded edges to stick their anti-capitalist stickers on, on the other hand it would (just as always) be supporting an anti-palestinian regime.

    I guess, the same as always, ignore the inconvenient truths and drink some mate or kombucha, or whatever it is they drink, and go to an anti-zionist protest with big tech hardware in their hands.

    Meanwhile, the large majority won’t care. Out of sight, out of mind. As long as the new gadget makes them seem like they belong in a high social class and they can fit in 🤷 “A little big tech ain’t hurt nobody! (nobody I know)”