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minus-squareJohnDClay@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up0·1 jaar geledenWould all rhetoric (persuading people) be propaganda? I think that makes the word useless.
minus-squaredavel@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·1 jaar geledenRhetorical exchange between two people is one thing, mass persuasion is quite another, though they are not entirely unrelated.
minus-squareJohnDClay@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up0·1 jaar geledenSo would any speech to a bunch of people be propaganda? What makes something propaganda?
minus-squareNSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·1 jaar geledenit’s not useless if it describes something.
minus-squareJohnDClay@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up0·1 jaar geledenIt’s describing all communication, good and bad. This conversation we’re having right now would be propaganda.
minus-squarePolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·1 jaar geledenYou’re trying to influence someone’s understanding of the term propganda, which makes it propganda.
minus-squareJohnDClay@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up0·1 jaar geledenAnd you’re communicating, which makes your comment propaganda. Or is it only propaganda when it’s to political ends?
minus-squareNSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·1 jaar geledenturns out, everything is political, so, yes, it’s all propaganda.
minus-squareJohnDClay@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up0·1 jaar geledenSo I think that definition is useless, since there’s nothing that isn’t propaganda.
Would all rhetoric (persuading people) be propaganda? I think that makes the word useless.
Rhetorical exchange between two people is one thing, mass persuasion is quite another, though they are not entirely unrelated.
So would any speech to a bunch of people be propaganda? What makes something propaganda?
it’s not useless if it describes something.
It’s describing all communication, good and bad. This conversation we’re having right now would be propaganda.
You’re trying to influence someone’s understanding of the term propganda, which makes it propganda.
And you’re communicating, which makes your comment propaganda. Or is it only propaganda when it’s to political ends?
turns out, everything is political, so, yes, it’s all propaganda.
So I think that definition is useless, since there’s nothing that isn’t propaganda.
have you read Foucault?
You want to summarize?