• blady_blah@lemmy.world
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    I hate this person. It makes me want to scream. One of the dumbest stupidest things about Windows is a fucking useless programs go on with it that haven’t been updated in 20 years. Please update them. You want to update notepad? Go look at Notepad+. Please please please update all the shitty little programs that exist around Windows that no one uses cause they’re so goddamn shitty.

    Holy fuck update Windows programs. For the love of God update ALL the Windows programs. Make the goddamn search tool work. Make the goddamn voice to text work. Make the image viewer not suck. Please don’t listen to the people who are resistant to change. Leave an old shitty version on there just for them, but please please make Windows programs better because they suck right now!!

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      What a bad take. Notepad was never meant to have formatting, as the post states. Notepad’s purpose was to open war text files as raw text. For formatted text, there was WordPad. What made notepad great is that it was the fastest and easiest way to just know what is in the damn file.

  • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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    If you use the formatting bar to format text, it unlocks the View→Markdown menu which has two options - Markdown or Syntax. This allows you to toggle seeing the source or formatted markdown.

    If you do not use the formatting bar to format text, markdown is not enabled. I manually typed in text in markdown format and the menu didn’t un-grey.

    You can go into the app settings and turn off formatting, which will hide the formatting toolbar.

    I think you really have to work hard to be offended by this.

    Additionally, for those Notepad Purists™ who are offended by any features being added… Tabs are handy. And having it auto-save drafts and auto-open them is also handy - for me. Maybe you don’t like that, but you can disable the auto-save in settings. Can’t turn off tabs, but you can set it to open in new windows, so pretty close to disabling that.

    If this is what drives you over the edge to use Linux… okay, bud, have it your way - and I’m a Linux enthusiast, so I’m all for it. But being pissed off by something you have to specifically enable seems a bit silly to me. It’s the hallmark of fascism - “Other people have the right to exist! FUCK THAT!” - a little hyperbolic, but the principle is vaguely the same. :P (And what’s the internet without hyperbole? :) )

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      STOP DOING “STOP DOING MATH” BUT ACTUALLY WANTING TO STOP THE DOING

      • TEMPLATE WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY STOP DOING MATH
      • YEARS OF SNOWCLONING yet NO REAL-WORLD USE FOUND for “greaphic desgni is my PASSION:”
      • Wanted to play satire straight anyways for a laugh? We had a tool for that: It was called “FORREST GUMP”
      • “Yes please give me pictures of BAD TEXT on backgrounds. Please give me BADDIES of it” - Statements dreamed up by the utterly Deranged

      LOOK at what Memers have been demanding your Respect for all this time, with all the imgurs & reddits we built for them:

      STOP DOING ‘STOP DOING “STOP DOING MATH” BUT ACTUALLY WANTING TO STOP THE DOING’ SINCE IT WANTS TO STOP THE DOING

      They have played us for absolute fools

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      Not embracing every bullshit data mining change tech companies shove down our throats is fascism, got it. An intelligent, well reasoned, not at all fucked up thing to say

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        Yes, you have accurately characterized what I said and didn’t miss any of it in the slightest. Well done, you. Congrats on not completely missing the entire point. I am honestly impressed by the complete lack of comprehension. Nicely done.

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    They also introduced a critical security vulnerability into notepad where they just had the markdown links shell execute open link which allowed just installing arbitrary software as long as the link was valid instead of just opening a browser.

    If you managed to get the file onto a person’s you could execute it by having the person click on the link.

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      Feels like everything is. Might as well describe every app by it‘s (now) secondary function.

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        That makes no sense even if you ignore the fact that Copilot can be easily disabled in Notepad, and it doesn’t directly load with the app (as in: doesn’t slow down startup or anything like that).

        Notepad works just as it always had, it just has dark theme, tabs, sessions, and a Markdown viewer now.

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          @Alaknar@sopuli.xyz @programmer_humor@programming.dev

          Well, I confess I’m in no good position to say anything about Windows 11, for I’ve been a daily Linux-only user (Arch, by the way) for almost a decade.

          However, as far as I’ve seen about Windows, AI (especially that spying feature designed to take screenshots and create a lookup-able timeline, “Microsoft Recall” if I recall (pun intended) correctly) seems to be so intertwined with Windows that even the Windows Explorer’s Shell has now a hard dependency on AI-related and Microsoft Edge-related libraries. This way, if someone were to try and purge the Windows from AI-related crap, it will break the OS, Explorer simply won’t launch.

          Also, “can be easily turned off” implies something that comes enabled by default: the exact same dilemma behind Mozilla Firefox and all the crap they’ve been imbuing inside the browser. In the end of the day, it’s a non-consented relation. The fact it can be opted-out doesn’t make it less of a non-consented relationship, for the non-consented relation already happened as the user proceeds to opting-out of it. In other realms of legality, it would be considered a crime, but as it’s something done by corporations (Microsoft, Mozilla, Google), they it’s suddenly “a-okay”.

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            Don’t take this as an attack against yourself, but holy shit, where are you getting your news from? Do people seriously believe that everything is AI in Windows now?

            Recall is not yet live (it’s available as a preview feature), you have to enable it manually, and even then you can disable it easily.

            Copilot barely does anything. They’re basically shoving the button wherever they can to goad people into using it, but that’s mostly it.

            “Purging” the OS from “AI-related crap” would purge it from AI-related crap and not break anything (source: did this on my previous work laptop)

            Also, “can be easily turned off” implies something that comes enabled by default

            It’s a button. If you click the button, a Copilot interface loads with the file you’re editing pre-loaded as context. Unless you click it, it does nothing other than taking up space. You can disable the button from the Settings.

            I agree about all the opt-out/opt-in stuff, but also understand why a company catering to 80% of the market defaults to opt-out - users are dumb, they have no clue how to explore features, so opt-in features remain forever disabled for 99% of them.

            And then Apple does an update with an identical feature enabled by default, and everybody goes “damn, if only Microsoft thought of this!”

            I don’t understand what “crime” you mean.

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              @Alaknar@sopuli.xyz @programmer_humor@programming.dev

              Don’t take this as an attack

              It’s okay, no offense taken.

              where are you getting your news from?

              Mostly from Lemmy, but also from Gizmodo.

              Do people seriously believe that everything is AI in Windows now?

              Tbf, it doesn’t help the fact that corps are shoving AI into everything they can and can’t. I’m far from being Anti-AI, but when we live in a world where everything is being AI-fied, I can totally understand the anti-AI fellows and their sentiment “Windows = AI”.

              Recall is not yet live (it’s available as a preview feature), you have to enable it manually, and even then you can disable it easily.

              As far as I read, it’s partially true. Not true, however, in cases when the PC was set up by someone other than you, e.g. in workplaces. If the company someone works to decides to enable Recall “to improve productivity”, anything done by the employee will be seen, not just by the employer, but by Microsoft too, not to mention hackers who will love to get their hands at this golden goose of private data.

              They’re basically shoving the button wherever they can to goad people into using it, but that’s mostly it
              It’s a button. […] Unless you click it, it does nothing other than taking up space.

              Maybe. But the presence of the button, alongside the shortcuts for features “summarizing”, “auto-formatting text” and other AI-driven features, implies Copilot is a whole dependency on .dll/.exe related to Copilot, as well as potential unintended network comm with Microsoft servers.

              “Purging” the OS from “AI-related crap” would purge it from AI-related crap and not break anything (source: did this on my previous work laptop)

              Okay, fair point.

              I agree about all the opt-out/opt-in stuff, but also understand why a company catering to 80% of the market defaults to opt-out - users are dumb, they have no clue how to explore features, so opt-in features remain forever disabled for 99% of them.

              I heard the same during a discussion about Firefox here in Lemmy. “Users are dumb, so corp needs to guide them through the new features by enrolling them automatically”. Whenever I hear about how “users are dumb”, I can’t help but wonder how the so-called “dumb users” are allowed and able to drive a half-tonne car at 120kph or, even worse, (it doesn’t even need a license) voting (allowed responsibility over everyone’s lives)!

              And then Apple does an update with an identical feature enabled by default, and everybody goes “damn, if only Microsoft thought of this!”

              Maybe it’s because iThings aren’t socially pushed as Microsoft things are. You said yourself: Microsoft is “a company catering to 80% of the market” dominating the PC market, not Apple.

              what “crime” you mean

              Non-consensual relationship. Harassment. In this case, it’s software harassment disguised as dark patterns such as opt-off when it should be opt-in.

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                Mostly from Lemmy

                Yeah, Lemmy is weird, especially the tech-related communities for some reason. It’s like: “if it’s not Linux and FOSS, it’s literal cancer, unless it’s Microsoft’s, then it’s literal radioactive and aggressive cancer”.

                I can totally understand the anti-AI fellows and their sentiment “Windows = AI”.

                100% agreed. However, as with any other opinion, fundamentalism is bad, m’kay. I get why people are tired of AI (I’m in the same boat!) but there has to be rationality involved.

                As far as I read, it’s partially true.

                That’s just ordinary standard click-bait from a tech site. They themselves mention that the rollout will be “to beta users”, that means Insiders. Insider builds are very different from regular builds and many features are force-enabled in them.

                Which makes sense: if you’re making the very conscious decision of signing up to Windows Insider, after going through the warnings about the nature of the program, you should know full well about what it comes with.

                I was reinstalling my wife’s Windows recently and was asked if I want to enable Recall, with a very prominent “the feature is in preview” on the screen.

                Not true, however, in cases when the PC was set up by someone other than you, e.g. in workplaces. If the company someone works to decides to enable Recall “to improve productivity”, anything done by the employee will be seen, not just by the employer, but by Microsoft too, not to mention hackers who will love to get their hands at this golden goose of private data.

                Oof, there’s a bit to unpack here.

                1. If it’s workplace, it’s not the employee’s device, it’s the workplace’s. Nothing the employee does is private, that’s the whole point of managed devices. Nobody ever looks at what the employee does (unless their manager is completely fucking insane), because nobody has the time for that, but in case of, say, litigation, or such, the data is there. Recall isn’t needed for that.

                2. Microsoft has zero access to Recall data. It’s 100% local (hence the “Copilot+ PC” requirement - these are the PCs that have CPUs with an “NPU”, or “Neural Processing Unit”, allowing them to run LLMs locally without killing performance).

                3. For hackers to get to this data, they’d need to break the network security measures, the account security measures, anti-virus security measures AND BitLocker. Which is to say: a hacker getting access to Recall is the least of a workplace’s worries, because it means they’re effectively wide open to the Internet.

                4. There’s not much in Recall that you can’t extract from the browser’s cache. Many of these things are actually less useful, because even if you steal someone’s password by scraping Recall data (and that’s assuming something goes wrong and Recall doesn’t redact it), you won’t be able to sign in from a different device due to MFA. However, if you have such deep-level access to the device, you can, instead, steal the token used for logging in - that one usually already comes with the MFA token, so you can sign in anywhere.

                Maybe. But the presence of the button, alongside the shortcuts for features “summarizing”, “auto-formatting text” and other AI-driven features, implies Copilot is a whole dependency on .dll/.exe related to Copilot, as well as potential unintended network comm with Microsoft servers.

                Those features - to my knowledge - only work on the devices with the NPU, which is to say: they run locally. I haven’t really looked into it, though. Either way: they are fully optional and dormant until the user clicks them.

                Whenever I hear about how “users are dumb”, I can’t help but wonder how the so-called “dumb users” are allowed and able to drive a half-tonne car at 120kph

                Check any news source for the road accident numbers. You start to see a trend now?

                or, even worse, (it doesn’t even need a license) voting (allowed responsibility over everyone’s lives)!

                Did you not notice who won in the US last year?

                Maybe it’s because iThings aren’t socially pushed as Microsoft things are

                How do you mean? The only difference I can think of is that Apple users are generally more enthusiastic towards Apple products than MS users. That being said, we’ve seen countless times that whatever Apple does is called “revolutionary”, whereas when MS does, people don’t care. First touch-screen phones: Microsoft. Best digital assistant: Microsoft. Best optimised mobile OS: Microsoft. Etc., etc.

                And we’ve already seen that recently with Recall - Microsoft announced it, and people lost their shit, talking about how dangerous that is, how security is 100% compromised right now, and how everybody has to switch to MacOS or Linux.

                Then, two weeks later, Apple announced it’s identical but less secure version of Recall, and there was nothing overtly negative in the media about it. Some sceptical articles here and there.

                Non-consensual relationship. Harassment. In this case, it’s software harassment disguised as dark patterns such as opt-off when it should be opt-in.

                That’s, unfortunately, not how it works. I agree that dark patters suck and people who use them should be banned from making any executive decisions regarding software ever, but most of the time when people are complaining about dark patterns these days, it’s completely benign shit.

                Like, come on, a button showing up with a new feature is now a “dark pattern”? Let’s be real here.

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    the point and strength of notepad was that it opened immediately, no bullshit, you can write text and that’s all.

    I suspect that’s not the case anymore.

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      Nope, now (by default) it opens all the files you had open the last time you used Notepad. You can turn it off, but it’s annoying.

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    Its really a shame. Every OS needs a simple text editor, possibly without formatting support of any kind. You’re not supposed to use it, it just makes it possible to edit basic configurations on the fly and things like that. Instead they support half of word pad and cram in copilot for some reason.
    Although I do admit, I haven’t seen the need to move away from kwrite for a long time. Basic text editor that does what it should and does it right!

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      Then just types into and don’t do any formatting. I use it daily at work for pasting text I want to keep. That’s it I type or paste I never save, I never click any menus etc.

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      What’s the equivalent in Linux? I’m using an Arch-based distro with KDE, the only editor I can see is Kate, but I might be missing something due to the Linux naming conventions.

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        I think kwrite on kde. Arch may come more barebones though.
        It’s hard to point to one because linux isn’t an operating system per se… and many distros come with different software packages with different DE’s. That’s where a GUI text editor’s home is, so it depends on that, the distro.

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    GNU EMACS is RIGHT THERE in WINDOWS
    You can INSTALL IT
    (Well you can’t install it, you kinda just dump it in Program Files)
    PEOPLE have been EXTENDING it for DECADES SAFELY
    WHAT are you WAITING FOR

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      Well, since you asked… I’m waiting for guile-emacs to make a breakout like neovim did.

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      Huh. That write up seems pretty useful. It’s so weird that the redesigned app is just an alias to the old and untouched app that’s still sitting in system32

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        Same way the rest of the OS is built.

        All those fucked up snapins and apps and pretty pretty nonfunctional interfaces (try changing an ip) are utterly negated by start-run-“control”

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            Whomever was involved with the creation of the “new” printer settings menu should be killed by dumping a whole nest of fire ants high on bath salts into their rectum and then stapling it shut.