Anything but Canonical Shit
Went back to Mint a few times but ultimately I like Plasma over Cinnamon, so Debian it is!
You do know that you don’t have to change distros to change DE right?
Yep. I was using Plasma on Mint for a while but the consensus was you’re best off using a DE officially supported by the distro.
Never encountered any issues personally up to that point, but seemed to be the majority opinion when I researched it.
But my most recent switch was from Endeavour, so made much more sense to install Debian 13 than to Install Mint and then immediately switch DE.
Willingly switching from Arch to Debian says a lot about a person
I absolutely loved the release of LMDE, it’s just what I like though, the simple intuitive interface of Mint, without dealing with Canonical’s bullshit (really sour about snaps, ignore me lol).
Edit: picked back up my phone and reread what was on the screen when I realized you probably meant desktop environment and not Debian Edition when you typed DE.
An OS should GTFO and let you get on with the business of doing shit on your computer, Linux Mint does that nicely. 🐧
except it doesn’t. Fixed release model quite easily gets in a way of doing shit. Need to add a PPA into config for each separate package you need the latest release of, or simply because the package itself is absent in the normal repo doesn’t help either. And don’t get me started on troubleshooting after “doing shit”.
Something like fedora does a much better job if you prefer fixed release, but if you like to experiment and “do shit”, arch derivatives like Endeavor or Cachy are just better suited for you. All of the above also have a much nicer documentation than Mint.
For most people, especially those who want to migrate from other OS, micromanaging package versions is not part of doing shit.
well, it apparently was an issue for me on Mint, when i just switched from windows.
I might misremember things, but i believe some Microsoft stuff was inside PPA, so for someone just switching from windows it’s actually more likely to delve into the apt fuckery.
Noob distro btw
Well, I switched to Linux to get away from Microsoft bullshit so I never tried installing any of their stuff but I can see that being an issue for some people.
+1 for Fedora being the best distro for getitng out of your way so you can get on with doing stuff.
I mean, literally Linus himself runs Fedora for this very reason.
Didn’t he recently switch to something else? I forget what. Maybe I’m misremembering.
Didn’t hear about it, at least recently when Linus Torvals came to Linus Sebastian (aka Linus Tech Tips), they were still discussing Fedora
Only because it’s easier and faster to install new kernels with. Otherwise, I suspect he doesn’t much care about gaming or other more “normal uses.”
In the context of the comment, “do shit” is explicitly not anything to do with the OS or packages or repos.
@ekZepp For me, it’s Debian. It always just works.
I changed one of my PCs over to Debian this month, and I was surprised at how smooth it is. I guess I was expecting it to be way more barebones. I don’t know if I need more than this!
I’ve been running sid on my personal laptops for more than a decade. Can’t imagine doing anything else
i might try various other distros for my desktop usage. But for my home server it will always be Debian. Rock solid.
Same. EndeavourOs on the desktop but the rest of the Homeland is Debian.
Same. It’s like coming home.
Switched my gaming PC over to Arch a little while back but the server’s always going to be Debian.Unless you need nvidia drivers from this century
Fuck nvidia
Amen
I daily drive LMDE with a 4070ti super, works perfect. I do use the proprietary drivers but I hardly ever have issues.
That’s okay. Thanks to their insane pricing caused by covid, followed by more insane pricing caused by the AI bubble, many people are still running cards not getting any new drivers anyway.
Don’t forget NFTs!
1080ti still works great
For me it’s Mint Debian Edition.
LMDE is excellent and I’ve been running it since it first came out… whenever that was! Very underrated distro!
Why that and not standard Ubuntu-based Mint? At minimum you lose PPAs and the Driver Manager. What’s the upside?
I dislike ubuntu. I don’t care about ppa since i’ll just compile anything not in the repos. Same with drivers but i haven’t needed any weird driver in years.
Thanks!
@teft Yeah, I’ve been tempted to take a look at Mint DE. If I ever try another distro on something I will def check that out.
Thats what LMDE is for, Linux Mint Debian Edition. Been my fairly driver for years. Otherwise I use vanilla Debian for all my server and headless stuff.
I use arch btw
Arch is on my gaming pc and is alot of fun, but I must admit my old reliable is straight Debian, after hopping through a couple of Debian based distros, I tried straight deb and agree it just works. So it’s installed on anything I don’t wanna tinker with
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If you are happy with Debian, I’d say stay with it. I have tried many distros but I like Debian and return to it for most of my devices. Sometimes Debian will have older versions of software if you use stable, I don’t really mind personally
Went with LMDE7 for my first full daily driver install, real happy so far :)
Fedora
I’ve been living with fedora (ultramarine) kde for a while now because people praised fedora so much, but i think mint still wins. and i chose ultramarine because am a noob, don’t sue me.
there are many little things that just don’t work and i seriously can’t figure out. here’s a few: discover fails to update the system and i always have to do it manually from the terminal. wine is broken, it literally can’t run anything i throw at it that worked on mint. plasma theme customization is somewhat broken (also custom themes prevent updating…). using alt key in games run with wine causes some annoying notification sound (not in system keyboard shortcuts). often keyboard leds stay on when system suspended, system can’t be woken up from keyboard. can’t use flameshot with kb shortcut.
this isn’t a hate comment though, a lot of things are better than i had with mint cinnamon. i do like how it’s a lot faster than mint when under heavy load, autosuspend actually works, no issues with screen not waking up. currently my media pc with mint can’t update because all sources are unavailable and it has some conflict with python3 which it won’t let me uninstall (which i suspect would be unwise, idk)
I can only recommend regular Fedora because I have a feeling you just wouldn’t have those issues but I am not a doctor.
Kinoite Ride or die
FOR ME it does the things I need it to do; and it works; and hasn’t blown up my house yet so 🤞
Yes.

From the bottom of my heart fuck rolling releases. Never worked for me (nobody get worked up please, ymmv).
you’re also not gonna like it when i roll up THESE SLEEVES TO THROW HANDS!
lol it’s funny how proactively defensive everyone is about their distro choices
I use a Mac for my server 🤓
For when you want the Ubuntu of Ubuntu as opposed to the Ubuntu of Debian.
Gentoo, I’m home
Cinnaminty goodness…
Man… I just fucking love CachyOS. I switched from Win11 a few weeks ago and up until now it is just a great experience.
I found CachyOS while trying to figure out the best OS for my handheld. Was on bazzite before that. I ended up loving it so much I installed it on my laptop and desktop too.
Ditto had it on two computers, works great
I tried twice to install it- a ryzen 360 was stopped dead by this bug: https://old.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/1pag639/rdseed32_error_and_sddm_fails_to_start/
Figured that out and ran into the touchpad not working after sleep.
A 9300H+1650 never made it past this: https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/the-installation-of-cachyos-always-aborts-due-to-chwd-error/16754/3
0/2, cannot recommend
I prefer Kali because dragons are freakin awesome.
Have you tried Garuda Linux yet? Another dragon themed distro with tons of dragon themes.
I tried CachyOS and so far it’s been alright besides having bit difficulty finding software so I have stuff from multiple sources.
Hmm? The AUR is one of the biggest pros of Arch and derivatives imo
If the software you need is available as .deb or .rpm, you can use Distrobox. For everything else, AppImages and Flatpaks
Aur can be a bit… Wonky in my experience, sometimes stuff just fails to install or work after.
There is no one reliable distro. Mint, itself is based off Ubuntu and also releases LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition).
If reliablility is measured in terms of how stable a distro is, then likely Debian with it’s conservative approach to packaging updates comes to mind (No wonder large number of distros are based off Debian only).
I would even argue as long as someone isn’t messing with a niche distro such as KDE Neon( meant to showcase KDE packages) or Linuxfx (or whatever it has renamed itself to, one of the few shady ones IMO ) or Trisquel OS (a GNU certified distro where running into dependency hell isn’t new); it will suit user’s case.
Debian, Slackware, Void, Zorin, even rolling release like Arch (basically any one that meets the user’s use case is reliable)
I would even argue as long as someone isn’t messing with a niche distro such as KDE Neon
KDE Neon is dead because its developers found out that putting an add-on repository on top of Ubuntu is not reliable at all. That’s why KDE Linux is now in development.
Is there a writeup about their problems with Ubuntu? Adding repositories to Debian and/or Ubuntu is how plenty of software is distributed, so I’m surprised to hear they’re unhappy with it.
I used Neon for a while, discovered that KDE were letting it go, and switched to Kubuntu. I love Kubuntu.
Kubuntu comes with mandatory Ubuntu enshittification, though. All official Ubuntu flavors do.
I mean, yeah, sure. But I like it.
Other than snaps, what else are they doing wrong?
Other than snaps, what else are they doing wrong?
That link comes up with an error. Do you know which software it is that is/was in the universe repo?
Void Linux made me stop distrohopping
For me, it’s been Manjaro for ten years, but I’m eyeing atomic distros more and more, like Bazzite.
Bazzite is nice, I’m running it at the moment. The gaming customizations are nice and having the latest kernel stable+NVIDIA open drivers is swell. You can even use Distroshelf (to emulate a distro) and App pass through to install apps that don’t have a Flatpak version. Or package layering, which is needed for VPNs like Mullvad to work properly; that’s also pretty easy to manage, so I never feel like I don’t have access to software. Too bad stock Fedora cannot be arsed to make NVIDIA drivers brain dead easy at the time of installation.
Yeah, Bazzite seems user-friendlier, like Manjaro was for Arch
Mmm, Bazzite is certainly user-friendlier, kinda like SteamOS is (the only Arch based thing I feel is user-friendlier).
I’m really enjoying Bazzite for gaming and uCore for servers. It’s reassuring knowing that I can just rebase and revert to a known good state with working drivers easily. Highly recommend a try























