but you can’t! are you personally able to verify the results of every scientific investigation ever performed? think about what’s currently happening in psychology. loads of old foundational studies have been found to be irreproducible. and yet people had faith that they were conducted honestly and appropriately

yes but you still have to have faith in the ability of another person to do science and not falsify evidence

but to people with faith, their faith is evidence-based

yes but translation from evidence to what caused the evidence to exist requires assumptions, like the fact that trig works. I’m not saying assumptions are bad, just that they should be acknowledged

they were complaining about things that are only unpleasant because of their own feelings toward the situation

can you elaborate? I’m not sure what your point is

yeah except that logic relies on base assumptions, which are ultimately chosen based on gut feelings

facts actually are very difficult to define. imagine telling an alien about the fact that people stop at stop signs, when the alien potentially has never seen a road, car, or stop sign

good luck defining where facts end and beliefs begin. ultimately science is a belief, even if it is evidence-based

oh so you’re just an unhappy person