Following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, in 2023 the company’s former leadership started a new company, temporarily named Jollyboys. The old Jolla OY was wound up, and they renamed the newer concern to Jolla Mobile Oy.

I’m in a similar boat. I had Proton Unlimited because of a good deal they had, downgraded back to Mail Plus and got Mullvad for VPN (which looks to me better than Proton).

The thing about Proton is they make it easy to degoogle. I can easily set up gmail stuff to be forwarded for things I didn’t switch yet (or people who didn’t catch on the fact I changed emails) and they have a whole suite of products.

But really, if Tuta introduces a Drive on feature parity, I will consider a switch - though it will be pain to change everything again.

That doesn’t make them evil, but it does cause me concern around their awareness of the shifting US legal landscape.

Doesn’t make them necessarily evil. But yeah, overall I’d agree with you on it. I’m certainly in my guard since then though.

I remember there being a little more to it, but I don’t have receipts. They did fairly reasonable PR explanation which lowered my concern a little - but some doubts stayed with me for sure.

Yeah, I guess it depends on how you look at it and what are your limits on this stuff. I can see why you disagree even with me for sure.

It definitely didn’t look great. It certainly didn’t inspire confidence. Not bad enough for me to leave (once the head cooled), but enough for me to consider it if a competitor comes up with a similar offering (looking at Tuta Drive once they introduce it).

This is not completely fair or true statement - though it is not too far from truth.

Thanks for making me realize the name is not just gibberish

So far so good!

Sweet, thanks for the heads-up. I gave up and used .social account but will try with .zip. Good news on the “saved” stuff being hopefuly fixed as well.

Good thinking though. Thanks for trying.

I also didn’t realize Voyager doesn’t show saved posts for Piefed… kinda sucks :(

Not in UK. Also, I can open the piefed.zip site just fine in the browser on my device with VPN on…

So I’m testing some stuff and was wondering… do you use VPN?

I tried shutting my off and .zip came up right away. I then turned it on again and it worked fine for a time, but after opening the app some time later, it did the same thing. Had to turn off VPN for a moment again for it to work again.

Yeah, that’s different. When I switch accounts, the whole thing just doesn’t load at all - I got nothing.

Well at least I know there is something wrong on my side.