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151·3 days agoThey didn’t say NK was stable, they said no matter how stable it still wouldn’t be a trustworthy partner.
It sure is. Look at how many news outlets just copy and paste some agency’s posts.
My comment was no dig at you for choosing that article.
I didn’t take it as that. I just find the topic interesting and a probably pioneering new technology that could benefit us all (yeah, I know, it’s not gonna benefit us all for fucking capitalism, but it has the potential) is very intriguing to me. The monetary side of things is just something that usually does not pop into my mind at firsr, so.your comment was a reminder that it could be a relevant question and I’m kinda disappointed I couldn’t find more info about it. I’m even more disappointed though that all the news outlets has word by word almost identical articles posted and there was no sign of actual research in their behalf.
Also meanwhile in (a state of) Germany:
Like a european mastodon instance?
US companies should not influence european politics and elections further to the right with their garbage algorithms and european politics should protect Europe from that.
Go fuck a couch.
The author seem to have taken the press-statement from the 3d-printing-company and subtracted some pictures and the metric units.
Without transparency about costs per m² compared to other construction methods it is just an advert.Unfortunately, I couldn’t really find more information. All results of a web search about this project in this state seem to be the same press statement almost copied verbatim.
You can’t have it both ways. Above you are arguing for nuances but now focussing on the most relevant crime is wrong? “All crimes” includes crimes against immigration laws and shop lifting on one side and tax evasion on the other. I doubt that those are relevant to the discussion.
I mean, again, it’s abiut how to handle statistics and formulate arguments based on them. When a statement is made that “crime rates are [generally] going down”, you cannot refute that by cherrypicking one statistic with a specific context.
I don’t understand this
What doyou not understand about that?
Then that has to be changed.
Obviosly.
Otherwise the left reduces itself to a tool for the creation of the appearance of democracy.
How so? How is a political movement with comparatively little influence that actually demands said change not only becoming a fig leaf for democracy but making itself one when their demand is not fulfilled? That’s not how societal change works.
Who is not winning?
What? Are you trolling now?
That’s the point where the AfD is winning. The default reaction can’t be to start with talking it away.
No, AfD is not winning at that because examining an event’s root cause is not “talking it away”. This (your) rhetoric (which is very close to AfD talking points) and it being adopted by main stream media and influential figures is what benefits the AfD. Acting for action’s sake is not helping anything.
Should be its own category. If not that would be a huge manipulation.
Again, that’s why context and breakdowns of data is important. The german PKS (which is a very imperfect but unfortunately our only accessible statistic in Germany about crime (AFAIK)) lists politically motivated crimes and breaks it down into left/right, propaganda offenses, violent offenses, etc. Feel free to subtract right wing motivated violent offenses (and left wing motivated crimes against right wing persons (aka confrontational violence) as that is mostly motivated by a rise of violence from the right) and then compare the statistics of violent crimes over the years again. A quick web search brought up a rise of 17.2 percent rise in right wing motivated violence in 2024.
And yes, a twisted and out-of-context representation of statistics is bread and butter for right wing populists. They tell you that violence is growing again and that migrants are zo nlame and you should be scared of darker-skinned people. They tell you that migrants are overrepresented in crime statistics. But they don’t tell you that right wing motivated violence is growing fastest and that most of migrant crimes are crimes against immigration laws and that a lot of migrant violence is directed against other migrants.
That is why we need to look into the details and why “let’s look into the details and find out root causes” is fucking not “talking it away”.Btw, you want to act on rising crime rates? Build youth centres. Help the poor. Raise social security. Fight worker exploitation. Invest in education. Etc pp.
I go to bed.
Which implies that there is no reason for their rise but fearmongering.
No, really not so. Only if you think this is supposed to be a comprehensive discussion about the rise of the far right and not a look on specific details.
It is but I would still take it serious and increase the police force. It doesn’t hurt immigrants to have more police and it removes an argument for the right wing parties.
Hell no. German police has systemic issues with racism, racial profiling, right wing bias, etc. Thinking more police wouldn’t hurt is a very priviledged perspective. Also, more police costs a lot of money that would be better invested in prevention (which would also be cheaper in the long run).
So why keep falling into that trap?
Who’s falling?
But what if 2023 is no outlier? Look at chapter 6.2, development of violent crimes, page 41.
There seems to be a decline until 2021, after which violent crime is rising.
Again, then you should first look into the developement of known factors that influence the decision for criminal behavior, like poverty rates, rising cost of living, crises, existential fears etc. And what happened in 2022?
But also, the fearmongering of far right populists and parties began many years earlier than 2022.
Plus we should look at what kind of crimes are happening. A large portion of the rise in violent crimes is attributed to neonazis attacking left wing people, queers, migrants, politicians, etc.
And then you are specifically talking about violent crimes while the comment you answered to was talking about crime rates in general, so you slightly shifted the goalpost.
I was talking about the sentence that I quoted.
The sentence you quoted basically says that crime rates are not the reason for the rise of right wing parties. Nothing about fearmongering, that was my point.
However, my opinion is that the AfD and other parties wouldn’t be successful if the established parties had acknowledged the outliers.
And how do you think those outliers should have been acknowledged? Outliers are a regular occurence in statistics. Any acknowledgment that goes beyond “Yeah, that’s strange, however this is just an outlier at the moment, nothing to worry about yet” at the first sight of such an outlier is an overreaction. The far right overreacts (and I accuse them of doing so knowingly) by erecting bogeymen and accusing others of not acknowledging a statistic outlier by not overreacting. Combine that with conservative and neoliberal politics that did not appropriately react to actual crises, continue to exacerbate the living conditions for working class citizens, amplify precarious situations and play the same bogeymen as the far right and you have a nice boost in popularity for the far right. A media landscape that on one hand supports far right narratives and on the other hand fails to contextualize news and politicians’ outputs also helps a lot.
I don’t know about this specific project, but from what I know, those are not massive concrete walls. Depending on the construction method, there are insulations with expanded styrofoam, air gaps or other insulating methods.
but by the same logic the number from the headline should also be treated as an outlier.
If the only information we had, yes. We do have mire context though. We do have a specific place and the article gives additional information about the long term trends over decades. That is the relevant context.
This is a setup for failure. If the numbers are not dropping anymore and the left wing is not ready to acknowledge it
If, if, if. If the numbers are not dropping anymore, we need more context, yes. For example, we need to look at the development of factors known to influence criminal behavior, like poverty rates, crisis situations, existential worries etc. Rhat is exactly my point the whole time, ffs.
Also I don’t know what you want to insinuate about the left wing now? At least here in Germany, Die Linke is the only party actually wanting to address issues that contribute to the decision towards criminal activities, like housing crisis, rising cost of living, etc.It’s not all just fearmongering that convinces people to vote for the right wing.
Why do you think that is what I said? I didn’t state anything alike. It’s just the factor we’re discussing.
Again, there is missing a lot. A breakdown for countries, some context for victims (femicides in family context are mentioned, but not a lot more), motivation for property related crimes etc.
The problem is, conveying this kind of context is a complex task while it is very easy to oversimplify and overexaggerate cherrypicked statistics that fit a certain narrative, and right wing populists are exceptionally good at riling up the populace with the latter.
You are demonstrating how the far right fearmongers so well. Picking one single statistic and spread it without necessary context and overblowing its relevance. That’s Blöd-Zeitung’s level.
It’s gonna be realized in the year of Linux desktops when fusion reactors reach prodiction readiness.
14 days old and 825 posts. WTF?
If we only had a period or a branch when/where piracy was/is comparatively low so we could see what was done then to learn what compells people to pirate…
Na, kidding, better fracture the market to drain consumers for as much money as possible and lobby lawmakers to make laws in favor of huge corporate license hoarders.
Signal is still centralized US software.
No, you only read the headlines apparently. The 1bn is only due if you want to be a member for longer than three years (other factors may turn that into a subscription extortion later down the line, but at this moment, Trump only wants to force the free trial period onto countries).