I’m so confused by some of the stuff in this thread. I still use my sonos stuff and never even noticed the update beyond seeing that the UI changed a little at some point. I know people had some issues but I never stopped being able to do what I wanted with my beam, sub and a couple of satellite speakers in other rooms.

I use streaming services for music when i’m not using it for the TV too. I usually use the streaming apps themselves rather than the sonos app to do anything. I have set some custom EQ stuff with their app, but that’s understandable.

I don’t think they are anything special and they are very expensive things for what they do, but my problems are very few and far between. Every now and then my beam doesn’t get commands from HDMI via my TV… and the TV is always the issue (it’s old.) That’s really it. I’m not in love with the stuff and when it’s time to replace it i’ll look at what else is out there, but I don’t hate it either.

Getting everyone to be involved and knowledgeable about absolutely everything and to fight to make things right is beyond the capabilities of current humans. The more I know the more I understand I don’t know a lot about so many things beyond what i’ve experienced. Ignorance drives so many reactions (including the personal attacks from my comments here.)

I have met many individuals in this world who get very, very angry that someone else is doing x, y, or z - even if it has zero impact on them. Some of the reactions to my comments here about a very logical challenge that could have solutions with technology are attacked with illogical non-arguments and are a perfect example of how impossible it is to get humans to think critically about things when they have their own biases.

In what way does this graph say humans are not corrupt and taking advantage?

Even under communism the 1% had 4% of assets, that’s not 1% of assets like true communism should be. That in and of itself proves corruption to me. The fact that the USSR fell and a handful of 1%ers got the majority of industries for pennies on the dollar is egregious corruption. None of this is a criticism of communism. This is criticizing the actions of individuals who decided to be corrupt.

It’s just human nature. Some people call it “enlightened self interest” others call it nepotism, some call it survival of the fittest. Some call it gaming the system. In all cases it’s the same problem. Sometimes things can go well for a while but on a scale of even just a hundred years when an organization has more than a couple hundred people it simply goes sideways.

Based on your comment history and how negative you are about absolutely everything… have you looked in the mirror lately?

Also keep in mind that I have simply made a hypothesis that humans are incapable of not being corrupt in organizations at scale. How in the fuck is that any one political leaning? The system itself is irrelevant. Even in communes where everyone “shares equally” there’s usually someone in leadership getting special exemptions and special treatment.

I’d love one, I don’t think humans are capable.

In very small organization sizes it’s possible but as people come and go eventually someone will get control to make decisions that put their interests or their connections interests ahead of the masses.

You’re wrong.

I think the flaw is human nature. All governments and organizations are corrupt. All implementations are always twisted to suit the greed of individuals.

It’s entirely possible to create policy and enforcement mechanisms that would mitigate or eliminate excessive greed but nobody with anything votes for it because they’ll lose out on their own personal greed by their measure. They want that chance to fleece the masses even if they aren’t in the club that’s already doing it.

Blame humans.

I’ve been paying $30/year for like a decade now. Totally worth it.

They want them to breed.

They think blocking porn sites one by one is going to stop guys from getting access to porn. Haven’t they heard of bit torrent? tor? proxies and vpns? What are they going to do about foreign sites and sites that have mixed content like reddit?

Ridiculous law.

Hey, he’s a billionaire. Being gay is only illegal if you’re poor like everything else.