• quindraco@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    How bad are these that Hexbear didn’t even make the list? Drilling through on the clickable version here makes it clear that the #1, poa.st, has the same basic content as Hexbear, but I’m assuming it’s somehow way worse. Just imagine.

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      5 months ago

      hexbear isn’t even malicious. hexbear is spicy at best. not nearly as bad as lemmygrad, which is outright repugnant in its overt hostility. hexbear users are at least CAPABLE of communicating, whereas in my experience lemmygrad users pull the animal farm squealer move and defecate on the floor before storming out.

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    5 months ago

    I have to know what the Detroit soccer team did to get so high on that list. Somebody here must know. Please!

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        Really? I know they have a bunch of porn bots, I don’t think I ever interacted with someone on there, just saw bot posts in my federated feed. I never noticed anything pedoish, but of course I don’t click content warnings so I wouldn’t know, I’m not interested in NSFW stuff on fedi.

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      5 months ago

      Because in order to block content, the user first has to see it. If I were an instance admin, I wouldn’t force my users to see any amount of N words and homophobic slurs, not even the once it takes to block it.

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          With a blocklist, the user is putting their trust in an unnamed group of people with essentially no accountability. With defederation, the user puts their trust in admins they can talk to, with a public modlog to explain every decision. You’re proposing to take the same amount of control away from users, but with less accountability.

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            5 months ago

            You can have the federated blocklist people named, decisions for adding to list public and explained. That way it would be the same as with admins

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              5 months ago

              The difference, and the best part of the fediverse imho, is that if you’re not happy with someone elses rules you can become your own admin and set your own rules. The more we centralize power the further we go against that idea.

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      5 months ago

      If you want to see far-right content and spam, join a far-right server or run your own, rather than trying to shame server owners into doing what you want.

      Admins are entitled to decide what they platform and what they don’t. On top of that, the user experience of “just block 100 servers of Nazis and incels to get to the content you want to see” is complete dogshit.

      This “it should all be user level” is just apologist bullshit.

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        5 months ago

        Did anybody say admins aren’t entitled to block stuff? User just wanted a system to see everything and block what they didn’t want.

        Fuck off with this aggressive bad-faith shit.

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    5 months ago

    You thankfully appear to have not been exposed to a “proper” hexbear thread where all they can do to communicate is call you a shitlib for doing things like acknowledging genocide.

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      5 months ago

      Do you have examples? I am not doubting, since I’ve seen loads of people saying it. But I’ve never come across it myself.

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        I have the entire instance blocked in my client, so I can’t even go searching for a thread for you. But if you don’t, it should be incredibly easy to poke the hexbear, so to speak. Lemme grab you a link…

        Here, this one should work. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China

        Find an appropriate sublemmy on Hexbear and post this, ideally in a context that explicitly declares you oppose genocide. You’ll get nothing but the following in your thread:

        1. Accusations that you are a “shitlib”. Any attempt by you to find out what this word means will result in additional mockery.
        2. Denials of the Uyghur genocide.
        3. Adoration of the CCP, especially Xi Jinping (but Hexbear likes any authoritarian tyrant in China, so any CCP politician may end up adulated).
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          Lol. Absolute nonsense. Every time anyone is asked for an example of bad Hexbear behaviour they can only ever say “I HAVE NO EXAMPLES BUT I PROMISE IT WILL HAPPEN”. Speak about other people like they’re human beings pl0x