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Aaaaand there’s the enshittification, just like I expected.
Remember kids - 99% of the time, if it’s too good to be true…
Hell, even when it’s not too good to be true and you already feel ripped off! The audacity of these mfs!
It is not important that you can “turn it off”, it is important that it is installed. Off doesn’t mean not running in the background, sucking up your personal information.
or draining your battery.
and critically, most people won’t even know/bother is there.
Please stop copying Microsoft.
We desperately need a phone OS the user can modify at will, by design and not by rooting, and on mainstream hardware.
I know, the argument goes that the only reason phones are so reasonably priced is the upside of upsell for manufacturers. But phones are not “reasonably priced,” they are sold at a large profit and the upsell is just greed.
It won’t happen carriers won’t allow it.
Well, in some countries carriers don’t have a say in that.
they can have the slim modem, they shouldn’t get to know anything about the other parts of the OS
Ubuntu Touch exists and I have it installed on my backup Fairphone 5. In terms of the OS itself, it seems pretty solid and performs well. However it is very spartan in terms of both the interface itself as well as the apps available to interact with the OS in various ways.
It’s a very small team working on it and as far as I can tell they aren’t exactly drowning in funding. I bet if every person that would like to see another OS option donated a cup of coffee amount of money to them every month they would probably have what they want in the next 3-5 years.
I don’t see that happening though. I think most
You think most? But that’s a great suggestion, I’ll check out their funding page.
Lock screen ads are coming to all smartphones. Because you know that, once they get one group to accept it, they’re going to shove it onto everyone.
Back to my trusty Xperia with SailfishOS, I guess.
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“Nothing” experiments with lock screen ads
If you haven’t heard of Nothing, I don’t blame you. The Android phone company made waves back in 2022, largely on the back of its founder, OnePlus co-founder Carl Pei, but it only recently started making phones on par with flagship devices like the Google Pixel or Samsung Galaxy. Mostly, the brand has instead become known for its mid-range accessories and budget phones, which pack in a lot of power for their price points, but otherwise stand out through trendy and minimalistic designs. It’s a smaller market, but a loyal one.
That’s why it’s a bit odd to see the company put both its minimalism and fandom at risk by putting ads on its lock screens, via a new “Lock Glimpse” feature.
Added in Nothing OS 4.0 late last week, when turned on, the feature will show you one of a rotating selection of wallpapers, which all feature linked content via text at the bottom of the image. For instance, a wallpaper showing a strawberry sundae might look spiffy, but in practicality, it’s essentially an ad for a page with a strawberry ice cream recipe.
No they fucking aren’t
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Probably “never buying anything from a shitty company that does that”.
Yeah that. I can’t think of anyone who would buy a phone that spams you with ads on the lock screen. Gross.
That’s the best part. You didn’t buy it that way. They gave you a free upgrade.
like the nice lady in that Black Mirror episode.
Have already been since at least two years or so, although maybe on a slightly more limited scale.
The lower mid-range Motorola phone of my gf had a hard-to-disable active wallpaper app that displayed nice pictures, but had a prominent field leading directly to online ads when accidentally pressed (which happened a lot).
Also reactivated itself after each OS update.
Enshitification in progress…Moto is good for custom roms
Phone manufacturers know where you touch your screen the most often and put their shittiest apps in that spot so you accidentally engage. It’s the only reason I open up Google’s AI, because I did it by accident.
Phone manufacturers know where you touch your screen the most
Except Apple as it seems. They tend to routinely put essential interactive elements in the top left corner or so, farthest away from my right thumb.
On the other hand, Iphones don’t have sneaky ads hidden in the system, so there’s that…
Unless it’s in the top right for no good reason.
And don’t get me started on the inconsistent ways to go back. Sometimes it’s a button at the top left or right, sometimes swipe from the left, sometimes swipe down, sometimes up. I’ll stick with my android and a dedicated button, thank you.
Xiaomi pushes their wallpaper “carousel” quite hard, I never activate it because it wants way to intrusive permissions. I wonder if it’s in the same boat…
Might well be.
I had a Xiaomi ~5 years ago, whose preinstalled file manager suddenly started displaying ads after a year or so.
We switched to Motorola because of this, as they then still were known for crap- and bloatware-free system.
Has apparently changed recently.
One of the reasons it was easy to convince my gf to get a Fairphone now.Forgot about that, I installed FX (a super good free file manager, bought the pro version for like 10€ IIRC, or less, mostly to support it). Said to myself no more Xiaomi, but my last is still a xiaomi because it’s, IMO, still so much better and cheaper.
I’d be curious to know which phone model. I’ve only been using low end Motorola phones for years but I’ve never seen such a thing. I think mine have all been the Moto G series.
l think it has been the G54.
App was preinstalled, not removable and obtrusive like hell.Lol, I underestimated how many “Moto G” phones there are. I have the “Moto G 5g” at the moment, but had the “Moto G power” historically. But there are like 5 phones a year with “Moto G54” or similar branding.
I found what looks like active wallpapers on my phone, but I didn’t see any ads. For me it was hidden away in the settings and I only recall seeing it when first setting up my phone since my launcher handles the wallpaper now.
I do remember a bunch of apps like TikTok and some random Solitaire game being installed “for my convenience” when the phone was first setup, but I could remove them completely.
I wonder if very specific versions install different crap.
It’s a bummer if so because it’s what I recommend to friends if they ask.
There used to be Amazon versions of phones doing this like 10 years ago. They were a like 10-20% cheaper and with a lil Android knowledge you could permanently disable them over ADB and have a cheap usable phone
Not to my phone they aren’t, get fucked.
I was really considering a Nothing phone as my next device, based mostly on how much I love my Nothing Ear Open headset.
This has completely robbed me of any desire to give them any more money.
Greedy fucks. Glad it happened before I spent any cash.
Yeah it appealed to me too but now it doesn’t.
At this point I’m just going to get a flip phone and pretend it’s the 00’s.
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it wasnt as pervasive, seems likes it happening to other phones now too. especially with things being bootlocked.
I’ve seen Carl Pei described as the biggest edgelord in the smartphone industry. I think its a very apt description.
It only makes ad spam by Nothing so much funnier.
