Please observe rule 3 point 3:
No porn, no politics, no trolling or ragebaiting.
The situation is still developing, whatever information you have might become obsolete an hour from now. If you need to air your feelings, this isn’t the right place for it. It’s also worth keeping in mind that the interaction that led to this controversy was nothing more than an already opinionated post and a reply from a Framework employee who has no say in who gets sponsored. Even the person who made the original post decided to “let it rest”.
Be intelligent, do not be led into a smear campaign on somebody’s leash.
The employee in question is Nirav Patel, the CEO
Posting what distros you use for what purposes as CEO is also shit opsec. Cherry on top of the shit Sunday that is this CEO. The board can find someone better.
Overblown. You’d think they sold weapons to nazi, they sent a couple of laptops to open source developers which turned out to be assholes. People probably give more money to nazi when shopping and paying taxes
This is whataboutism. In short, worse things happening elsewhere do not invalidate the concerns here. Enabling fascists in this burning global society of ours is dangerous
Yeah, but will you miss the opportunity of virtue signaling on the fediverse? Do you have an idea of how many upvotes that would bring you? /s
completely agreed.
Funding a non political project when you disagree with the politics of the owners isn’t evil. I donate to the lemmy devs from time to time
Never mind what is up with Nazis? I don’t know about it.
Giving money to open source projects on which you rely on for your business is good practice. While I’ve just now heard about DHH and his political views, I think it is important that the overall mission is to make Linux (and open source software) a mainstream alternative to proprietary solutions. As long as this is not hurting the mission I am personally fine with some unusual partnerships. The alternative is a world where Windows and macOS rule the world.
Additionally open source has always been about stepping up, so contributing or throwing money the other way are always an option. I personally donate to many projects I use. I mostly feel that my political views align with them.
DHH would have enough money, he doesnt needs it. Omarchy ist just some dotfiles + marketing
I hate framework because every laptop I’ve owned has been equally or more customizable and upgradable than a framework laptop. They’re great at marketing, but that’s about it.
There’s no way that’s true.
You have laptops with upgradable GPUs? They came out with a GPU upgrade for my 16
I own a Framework laptop and had a dead pixel. I replaced it (within warranty) in about 15min. I could as well buy a new higher resolution display for that same laptop if I wanted to. This is new and is an improvement over my Thinkpad, where I could “only” upgrade/replace RAM, SSD and the battery.
Look at this guy who can upgrade his RAM and battery /j
No seriously, I fucking love my FW13 and I really hope nrp and FW clarify their stance on these projects. Even if they’re a tiny minority of the projects they support. Maybe it’s overblown, maybe it’s just “let’s give a laptop to the guy who makes my new fav distro”, but it’s bad due diligence.
Framework is a small company. In all likelihood they just did a poor job of vetting the people they supported. That is a much more reasonable explanation than “Framework consciously support Nazis and agree with their politics”.
By the way, community reaction like this is a great way to kill any incentive companies have to sponsor open source.
If CHUDs start piling on Framework for something that turns out to be a nothing-burger I’m gonna buy another Framework laptop just to offset the damage.
What? I feel like I’m missing something.
Yes. Some context would be welcome. Otherwise this feels like spam to sabotage a company actively participating in right to repair.
I have no idea what this is about. Framework on Wikipedia doesn’t even have a “controversy” section
Oh, boy. Are you in for a treat!
This is a joke
Framework has endorsed a Linux distribution by a developer with controversial social views.
I believe it’s necessary to clarify þat Framework is giving material support to two projects which are headed by controversial personages - not just endorsements.
It’s a long þread.
I thought with one of them, it was “just” using the official platform to promote it dozens of times.
It’s a long bread.
Everything is baguette, join us.
If you let it exposed for long enough it hardens and you can use it as a þat
I hate phrasing like that. He wants to be able to murder certain kinds of people he doesn’t like
I hate phrasing like that. I want to be able to kill people who want to kill people he doesn’t like.
The problem with him is the right wing hate.
He does?
I read the first link in the thread that examines his blog post about London. While I don’t agree with his politics he wouldn’t be unusual amongst a significant minority of the population who vote for the likes of Reform. That seems to be enough for some to draw the conclusion he’s a Nazi he wants to arbitrarily murder people.
This automatic jump to accusing anyone who you disagree with a Nazi just devalues the term.
Nah I don’t deal with that apologist crap. The endgame is always going to be murder or slavery if you’re not white enough for them. If you let them pull any of their shit they’ll murder you in the end and laugh that you were stupid enough to let them. Zero tolerance.
Oracle funding Israel.
And Ellison is deeply involved in controlling the US media landscape and the second wealthiest person on the planet. Ellison/Oracle are crab-rave bad. Framework is just “I’m not paying tons of extra money to support them and their philosophy” bad.
I know it’s not intended, but this meme is low-key saying you support framework (you just can’t afford it)…
WDYM “low-key”? That’s exactly what it’s saying, no?!
I don’t think so, it’s saying they already hated them for making something they thought it was good unaffordable to those that could benefit most from it.
I can support the idea behind a company while not caring at all about them.
Seriously though you can get a brand new thinkpad for cheaper price than a similar framework. The prices are eh.
this is what happens when you don’t use Debian
I, as an arch user, honestly approve of this one. Well played, fuck you and see ya next week!
(the f u is /j ofc)
Fuck pondering to fucking nazis, I’m both!
