• ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    I love how we’re all fucked because boomers will never die. Honestly, Gen X has a lot more folks that let us down. It doesn’t matter the generation really. I know a pregnant gen Z, and all I can think about is how her kid, according to the popular generational theory, is going to be the next cycle of boomer. That’s probably why many young gen Zs are a bunch of little assholes. But then she was a screw up, and my gen, the millineals as everyone knows works harder and is still called lazy and had our own screw ups. Generations are what they are but having no chance at happiness due to the rich controlling every goddamn asset is a new kind of fucked we all have to endure.

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    12 days ago

    We actually live in a world now in which the President of the United States explicitly states his intent to overtly violate the first amendment and the media just repeats it as if nothing of any note is going on.

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    10 days ago

    Here’s how this works:

    1. Network is created that doesn’t discriminate on speech.
    2. The left wins debates and it becomes increasingly liberal over time.
    3. Far right billionaires buy it to stop those process.
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      10 days ago

      That’s why decentralized platforms have to be the answer. They might not be impossible to co-opt, but they’re certainly more difficult.

      I’ve been warning people about this stuff for years, and they wouldn’t listen. I’m not happy about being right. It sucks!

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    11 days ago

    Unsurprising that a guy collapsing the Republic into a fascist dictatorship says that TikTok should be a mouthpiece for the Government. It’s time for someone in a country that ISN’T the US, Russia, or China to start a TikTok rival for people to switch to.

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    11 days ago

    Yeah I just hope it kills the app, which I’m sure it will. I never began using it in the first place but seeing it take over all of my fellow Gen Z, you know, the same ones who have admitted to thinking politics don’t matter, won’t be very happy when their favorite app turns to even more utter trash

    Hopefully this wins more minds away from social media and even more people can wake the fuck up here in Amerikkka.

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      I think people won’t care, at least this demographic fellow Gen Z. They still gonna use the app. Arguemnts such as “oh everyone uses this to send funny tiktoks to themselves it’s not that big of a deal” it will be just more shit to go through. Similar thing to Twitter. Everyone is so pissed at Elon because more bot accounts, you can’t or couldn’t block him and other shady stuff but still uses the twitter (X) because… everyone uses it.

      But I also hope it will kill the app.

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        10 days ago

        I’m seeing people moving to sky (or whatever it’s called). It takes time for people to switch social media platforms.

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          Oh yeah true. Some people switched to Bluesky (I think that what you meant). I remember the (especially artists) moved like 2-3 years ago because all this changes about feeding the AI and Twitter just being garbage (all porn bots and people being hateful about anything you do).

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    11 days ago

    So, Trump effectively nationalized TikTok, valued at $300b. He sells it to friendly oligarchs for $15b. So far, this is basically the post-USSR playbook, and how Roman Abravmovich, Alisher Usmanov, Vladimir Lisin, etc. got so rich.

    But it might piss off his oligarch buddies if he drives all the users off TikTok making what seemed like a steal into something worthless instead.

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      11 days ago

      I think that just like Elon with Twitter, the value is not in revenue but controlling the narrative.

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        10 days ago

        That only works if people use it.

        For some reason, people have stuck with Twitter. But, the users of TikTok are not the same as the users of Twitter, so who knows, maybe they won’t stick with it.

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      11 days ago

      This will be truth social again with a pre-existing user base and better algorithms. People will drop off, but they will probably boil the frog slowly to keep people around.

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      In ex-USSR that happened as something destructive, but in USA honestly it’s normal, using institutional pressure to help friendly businesses. Trump is unusual only in how grotesque he is in his position, but history saw Talleyrand.

      And US sanctioned Japan just because some of its businesses couldn’t compete, which didn’t kill Japanese car industry, but hurt Japanese computer industry, and sent Japan into recession from which it didn’t quite recover.

      About driving users off - that doesn’t really happen unless you intentionally break everything. VKontakte be the experiment showing this, except TG was later made based on VK makers’ experience with social stuff, and was very successful, and is now basically the most convenient messaging\social platform. When something FOSS manages to reproduce the experience of TG, then FOSS messaging and social systems stand a chance. So - some of the life moved from VK to TG, but it’s more of VK’s experience stagnating and being too complex and overloading, not of people fleeing it.

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    11 days ago

    I’m sure it really depends on where you live, but here in East Europe I’ve noticed tiktokkers slowly turning into Z’ers who start accepting Russian disinfo as facts. Meaning, it’s already pro-MAGA

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    12 days ago

    Trump says TikTok should be tweaked to become “100%

    Me says posts that start with “Trump says” should be tweaked to become 100% invisible.

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        10 days ago

        Perhaps it would be better to focus on the insane shit he is doing and not the insane shit he is saying (which distracts from the doing).

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      You know, given how exploitative and harmful TikTok has been from the start, it might have been better never to use it at all.

      I’m guilty of being on TikTok too, mainly used to keep up with a few artists I listen to, but at the end of the day, the platform is just another exploitative data-harvesting machine.

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      I sometimes feel like the only mf around who doesn’t and never used tiktok. From the very start it just gave off bad vibes, and then all the news started coming out about it rotting your attention span away, data collection and russian manipulation winning hearts of young people, which pretty much confirmed my suspicions. Ironically reddit feels like a much safer platform than tiktok.

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      11 days ago

      I never used either. Never really understood the culture of gormlessly scrolling through mind-numbing content.

      But then I also gave up broadcast TV before even Netflix was popular. Just spent a small fortune on bargain bin DVDs instead.

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        11 days ago

        There’s a great deal of real news that goes through the app. It’s the majority of the content I see.

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          9 days ago

          Is there though?

          I know this sounds sarcastic, but I’m genuinely curious as I have never used TikTok at all. It there any way to verify the stuff that’s being shown? Do news accounts link to articles or any supporting information?

          All I’ve ever really seen from people sharing stuff has been new typical meme stuff and AI generated crap that people keep sending me thinking it’s real.

          How can you tell if what you’re seeing is real?

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            The good “creators” to follow for news generally provide a summary in Tiktok, then if you want to verify or learn more they have additional information and sources in their other locations (substack is a big one)

            I can generally tell if it’s AI generated, and if I have any suspicion then I try to find other reports and real sources via Google searches and whatnot. Like I didn’t believe the gold trump statue, or the trump and Epstein statue were real.