One thing I’ve seen my computer do a few times: log me out, by itself. Some rare times I try and unlock back into my session, my current open and active user with my programs running, and instead I am greeted not by my desktop as it was when I locked the screen, but rather the lock screen as it was before I even logged in the first time around
goddamn generation loss-ass meme.
Linux is so strong I turn it off from the power button. Saving 5 seconds.
That’s weak. I always pull on the power cord until the plug comes out. That shuts it down in a second flat.
I was talking about a laptop with non-removable battery of course! I turn off my desktop via Zigbee remote hooked to Home Assistant which flips a Zigbee power switch that the AC power cord is hooked up to. Even faster death than going under the desk and unplugging the power cord. Even just unplugging itself takes time.
I’m a little spoiled by this. I did it on Windows and had to rebuild the boot partition.
That random systemd service waiting 1.5 minutes.
You all not suspend/hibernate?
Yeah, I was thinking that. I wish we had a button (other than power off) to stop the service immediately.
Mine suspends immediately.
This is so fucking annoying. Whenever you try to run something not clearly meant for the desktop, there is like a 80/20 chance that you can completely forget suspend…
This is just not true.
- Linux does have a graceful process.
- Windows’s process is not graceful
Yeah and in linux when you say “kill this process” that process fucking dies. No 10 minutes of windows trying to negotiating with a crashed program to close. No I’m not angry about this happening to me at work today, why do you ask?
And when chrome freezes rest of the desktop goes gray and everyrhing else freezes too including the task manager.
Fuck me that’s ugly.
Both Windows and Linux have ways to gracefully ask a program to close and to force close it. Not being able to select the correct one on either system is a skill issue.
I am not sure how Windows handles processes, but on Linux you have different signals.
SIGKILL(9) generally kills the process immediately, but there are other signals likeSIGTERM(the default signal, 1) which asks process to gracefully quit, and many others.If you want to know more, check the
signal(7)man page or this Wikipedia page.I had such an issue with Teams on Mac the other day. It had a phone call stuck running in the background, so I tried to Quit the app. The Quit Teams option just turned gray, and the laptop even refused to reboot.
I am one of lucky 10 000 Thanks
same here!
Same
I like how you censored systemd
Yes, let’s keep this community family friendly. I could do without such obscenities.
system deez nuts
People need to learn that it’s ok to say systemd on the Internet and stop self censoring
Let’s not get carried away. Fuck and shit are ok, but I draw the line at s*****d
init.dstraight to jail
ya’ll aint just pulling out the power plug?
I flip the breaker whenever it’s time to shut down.
I flip the breakers so I can keep the power plug connected
I take an axe to my power meter. I want everything shutdown.
Y’all don’t delete WSUS, block all of the M$ IPs at both your HOSTS file and your router, and stop all update processes?
Do you even know how Windows works?
I don’t really, I just use Linux
Fair. I have two identical PCs. One is Win10, the other is Mint. Saves on figuring out dual-booting.
I just spin up a VM if I really need Windows for something. Haven’t needed it for some years but it’s good to have it just in case
Managed to wreck my NVMe drive with an unsafe shutdown on linux the other week, gave it a few hours for the self check, booted back into the distro and has been running fine ever since.
Pretty sure windows would’ve just set the computer on fire at this point.
for the most part i don’t care, but really, all those fucking terminals i left open, i know they’re open, that click per window of yes close has never been helpful
I used to override that setting.
I…uh…learned some uses for it.
I bet there were interesting uses.
I won’t say i’ve never shut down a long running process, but i’ve gotten a lot better at not running them adhoc in a terminal :)
The program ‘btop’ is currently running in this session. Are you sure you want to close it?
i’ll prob just start running pkill konsole before shutdown. was thinking of pkexec /sbin/shutdown -h now on a button, but it is kind of nice having some of my apps recover on reboot.
I just don’t shutdown until I get a big backlog of updates. I have to remount my SSD with my games on it every time, then tell steam.
what? why? can you not persist your mounting scheme in the fstab? sorry if i’m being ignorant just genuinely wondering
I blew up the OS a few times doing that wrong. I’ll just hit the mount button. Good enough.
Windows just randomly installing updates only when I’m working on something with a customer.
one of the reasons I’m moving away. pisses me off so much at work, I don’t even want it at home
My Windows is more like “I am scheduling the restart. Pray I don’t schedule it any sooner.”
Mine will do the restart and boot into Linux.
Windows Updates are always like that. Halfway through it’s got to restart, bootloader picks Linux, Windows doesn’t get to finish the other half of its update til the next time it’s chosen.
Is Linux higher in your boot priority?
When I had a dualboot, that’s how I ordered it.
Linux is higher in any priority.
Always has been.
you know you can make it so the last used OS gets booted right?
You can configure Grub to boot into whichever entry you last selected. Makes rebooting much more convenient
Meanwhile:
My W11 Pro PC: I’ll wait installing my monthly updates until you give me the okay. And I’ll wait for the reboot until you say so.
My Manjaro laptop: sorry, I couldn’t build package X. Go f*ck yourself while I provide you with no information on how to fix this.
*A manual build cache clear later*: all good!
Perform our weekly reboot.
It’s horrible, but these days Windows updates actually give me less issues AND require less reboots than Manjaro. 😞
The problem there is the word “Manjaro”
Unfortunately while they market themselves as beginner friendly that’s simply not true
If you want something easy, you can install one of the “Just Works” distros. Even though Manjaro advertises themself as beginner-friendly, they certainly are far from it.
Debian and PopOS are both great choices.
Or Mint
Debian was a horrible choice actually, my laptop’s WiFi card didn’t have a kernel driver available at the time. Tracking down the correct one was an interesting journey by itself, getting it compiled and loaded was another. In my 20 years of Linux experience I’ve compiled my fair share of drivers from source, but this thing was a complete disaster and simply refused to work.
I even tried Ubuntu (still feel dirty about that one): also no support out of the box.
So I needed a rolling release, as kernel support would drop fairly soon. Being downstream from Arch I reckoned any major issues will be worked in Manjaro out before hitting their release.
So far I’m actually quite happy with it, my only gripe is the stability of Pamac. The frontend tends to hang during updates from time to time or require a manual database update to show available updates again.
And of course the issue with packages not building anymore, until you clear the build cache. The (bi-) weekly reboots because of kernel updates are annoying, but something I can live with.
You should give Endeavour OS a try
Just do sysrq+s, sysrq+c (triggers panic) and flip the power switch for instant power off.
On my work PC I disabled automatic restarts and I’ll just hibernate it for weeks at a time, keeping my work stuff open. Convenient, and I can install updates when I choose to.
