• RejZoR@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    It’s wild why people still use Chrome. It was shit when it was released and it’s still shit today. People usually argue it’s “so I can be signed into all Google services” like other browsers somehow can’t do that or something. It’s crazy.

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      I have to occasionally use it. Not often, but there are still times where nothing else works. Sometimes I’ll need to log in to a site, but for a wild XYZ reason it doesn’t work on Firefox, just Chromium-based browsers. Or the site won’t display at all. Or for instance the web devs completely block anything but Chromium with an excuse that “it can’t work on Firefox” (looking at you Apple Business Manager, go fuck yourself). Luckily, it’s rare enough.

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    Please stop using any Chromium based browsers. Google has too much power as is. I can’t wait for the Ladybird browser, because default Firefox isn’t looking much better, either.

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      Firefox isn’t looking much better, either.

      False equivalence.
      Firefox is CLEARLY without a doubt the better choice in every aspect that has to do with abuse of privacy and power.

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      I’m hoping for Servo to pick up pace. Imo, writing a new browser engine in a non-memory-safe language was a mistake. It made sense when it was just a fun hobby project for Andreas but they should have pivoted.

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        Do you mean Ladybird?

        I was curious about this as well and it looks like they have plans to pivot:

        From the FAQ at the bottom of ladybird.org

        Why build a new browser in C++ when safer and more modern languages are available?

        Ladybird started as a component of the SerenityOS hobby project, which only allows C++. The choice of language was not so much a technical decision, but more one of personal convenience. Andreas was most comfortable with C++ when creating SerenityOS, and now we have almost half a million lines of modern C++ to maintain.

        However, now that Ladybird has forked and become its own independent project, all constraints previously imposed by SerenityOS are no longer in effect.

        We have evaluated a number of alternatives, and will begin incremental adoption of Swift as a successor language, once Swift version 6 is released.

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      Because people seem to misunderstand me

      People are not misunderstanding you. You literally wrote “Firefox isn’t looking much better”, which is nonsense in comparison with Chrome and chromium based browser.

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      7 months ago

      Recommendation to use librewolf is extremely unhelpful and/or dumb, it’s unusable by default for vast majority of people (everyone really) due to insane defaults that break every second web-page.

      Videoconferences? Forget about it. Images that look normal? You don’t need them. And so on, even tor browser is more usable then this.

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        I use librewolf, with default settings, as my main browser. If a page doesn’t work (which is quite rare for me) I usually turn of uBO which does the trick. There are of course a few known culprits that don’t work, like Netflix. I have brave installed for that kind of thing 🤷.

        Also Tor is definitely not more usable then Librewolf…

        Could you point out any specific sites that don’t work for you?

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      7 months ago

      How is default firefox on an even remotely comparable trajectory to what chrome is doing? Firefox has its faults but its been around 20 years and we still have a webbrowser that allows us the freedom to browse the web how we choose.

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        Look at what they did to JPEG XL. Google said they want to block the format, and Firefox said “Yes, daddy.” Then they just threw in some good old safety/security nonsense, just like Google did.

        In case you don’t know, Google tried blocking JPEG XL because the guy who wrote the objectively inferior AVIF format, which abuses a video codec as an image codec, has his feelings hurt by a superior option and user choice.

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        Mozilla is an ad company now. It happened when they picked up anonym last year. It’s why I use iron fox and librewolf that disable the telemetry by default among other things until ladybird gets closer to ready. Not to mention Mozilla forcing their ToS now to use the base browser on new installs and soon™ for existing users.

        Mozilla is prepping for how to replace their income from the Google default search deal. I’m 99% sure it’ll get blown up when the dust settles in the anti-trust case. It’s why they ended a bunch of projects that won’t make any money and branched into a bunch of weird (for them) markets like AI hoping to make money. The only proven to make money thing they are doing so far is ads.

        Leaving one ad powered company for another isn’t what I want to do. Fool me once…

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          I’ve unfortunately gotten tired of ironfox, some of the crap they change for “privacy” (doesn’t exist on the internet and all attempts to block things actually make you MORE identifiable) just break too many websites. After the like 30th time having to switch to nightly to make something work i just said fuck it.

          They really need to be more careful about actual functionality if they want to take over as the main version of ff. Don’t get me wrong I use ublock origin, decentraleyes, clearURLs etc. But i use them for performance not privacy, blocking all the bullshit sites load to eat my battery. They work without constantly breaking basic sites unlike whatever ironfox does

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        Firefox lost me with that new terms of service that lets them record everything you do and phone home. No thanks.

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        I almost feel like there’s some type of coordinated sabotage going on against Firefox.

        There’s zero issues using the browser - performance, extensions and websites all work as expected.

        The “privacy scandals” were extremely overblown pieces of nothing, especially compared to what Brave, Chrome and Edge do.

        And yes there are a million reasons to criticize how Mozilla spends their money… But I don’t see how that would mean somehow Firefox is bad for the user?

        Hell, Lemmy and Reddit (and “tech” YouTubers like Chris Titus) are so anti-Firefox and into hax0r l33t browsers that they heavily recommended a Chromium fork that turns out was maintained by a prepubescent boy hiding furry porn in the builds.

        I simply don’t get it. Use Firefox, it works, it’s private unless you’re a major target like Snowden, it’s fast, it’s been around for over a decade and will be for a decade more.

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          that they heavily recommended a Chromium fork that turns out was maintained by a prepubescent boy hiding furry porn in the builds.

          you know, I’ve heard a lot of shit about Brave, but I must’ve missed that one – or is this another, different, heavily sponsored Chromium fork?

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            Thorium had the furry porn. I use it for work as I need a Chromium browser for compatibility. Librewolf for everything else.

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              ahh, I never saw that one advertised myself, lucky me. The only Chromium fork with heavy sponsorship and clown-show-antics surrounding it I could think of was Brave.

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              It’s telling the guy went “what did Brave do now?”, though.

              Maybe telling that we have a couple meme opinions in our head for these recurring arguments and we don’t particularly consider anything else, but telling nonetheless.

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            brave has the cryptomining bs, and scam the owner is homophobic, plus brave was or is funded by PETER THIEL, theres a potential conflict of interest.

            but some users use brave because of its anti-fingerprinting, which helps evade some reddit filters.

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              Yeah I’ve heard all of that jazz, it was the stuff I quoted I’d not heard about.

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          Nope, not going to use anything that may bring corrupt Mozilla any visibility or revenue, not even a fork with the same use agent. I prefer using a Chromium browser.

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              The lesser of the two evils for me is Chromium with inbuilt adblocker (and an adblockinng DNS on top of it). Mozilla can (should) die in a fire, as far as I am concerned.