cross-posted from: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531

I feel like we need to talk about Lemmy’s massive tankie censorship problem. A lot of popular lemmy communities are hosted on lemmy.ml. It’s been well known for a while that the admins/mods of that instance have, let’s say, rather extremist and onesided political views. In short, they’re what’s colloquially referred to as tankies. This wouldn’t be much of an issue if they didn’t regularly abuse their admin/mod status to censor and silence people who dissent with their political beliefs and for example, post things critical of China, Russia, the USSR, socialism, …

As an example, there was a thread today about the anniversary of the Tiananmen Massacre. When I was reading it, there were mostly posts critical of China in the thread and some whataboutist/denialist replies critical of the USA and the west. In terms of votes, the posts critical of China were definitely getting the most support.

I posted a comment in this thread linking to “https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs” (WARNING: graphical content), which describes aspects of the atrocities that aren’t widely known even in the West, and supporting evidence. My comment was promptly removed for violating the “Be nice and civil” rule. When I looked back at the thread, I noticed that all posts critical of China had been removed while the whataboutist and denialist comments were left in place.

This is what the modlog of the instance looks like:

Definitely a trend there wouldn’t you say?

When I called them out on their one sided censorship, with a screenshot of the modlog above, I promptly received a community ban on all communities on lemmy.ml that I had ever participated in.

Proof:

So many of you will now probably think something like: “So what, it’s the fediverse, you can use another instance.”

The problem with this reasoning is that many of the popular communities are actually on lemmy.ml, and they’re not so easy to replace. I mean, in terms of content and engagement lemmy is already a pretty small place as it is. So it’s rather pointless sitting for example in /c/linux@some.random.other.instance.world where there’s nobody to discuss anything with.

I’m not sure if there’s a solution here, but I’d like to urge people to avoid lemmy.ml hosted communities in favor of communities on more reasonable instances.

  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Fascism is described as both “Capitalism in decay” and as “Imperialism turned inward.” It served and serves the bourgeoisie and petite bourgeoisie against the Proletariat and Lumpenproletariat, and historically arises when the Petite Bourgeoisie is facing proletarianization. That’s why the most violently MAGA are small business owners and the like, and why they think immigrants are the ones proletarianizing them.

    I highly recommend reading the first chapter of Blackshirts and Reds by Dr. Michael Parenti, which covers the material conditions surrounding fascism and who it served.

    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 month ago

      Fascism has been described as a teacher telling a student to shut up in class too, just because someone says something doesn’t make it true.

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        1 month ago

        Sure, so can you explain what you disagree with about what I have said, and why you believe fascism to not be left nor right? I am aware of “Third Positionists,” they serve Capitalists and arise from Capitalist decay.

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          1 month ago

          It’s going to be useless to explain it to you, you’ve already made up your mind, and since I’m no longer shitting and have things to do today I’m going to have to decline your request to waste my time explaining natsocs.

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            1 month ago

            What gives you the right to call me a Nazi for saying “fascism is right-wing?” That’s incredibly rude, entirely uncalled for, and utterly unfounded in reality.

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              1 month ago

              When the hell did I do that? Lmao dude are you ok? Talk about unfounded in reality lmao:

              It’s going to be useless to explain it to you, you’ve already made up your mind, and since I’m no longer shitting and have things to do today I’m going to have to decline your request to waste my time explaining natsocs.

              Where did I call you a nazi? Is it “it’s useless to explain it to you, you’ve already made up your mind?” So Nazi = Guy who already made up his mind? Ooook.

              Or was it “I’m done shitting,” and nazis are people I talk to while shitting? Seems weird to define that way but ok I guess.

              Or maybe “decline your request to waste my time explaining natsocs?” So, then, anyone I won’t waste my time talking to, they must be nazis? I mean yeah they usually do fall into that category too but it isn’t exclusive to them.

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                Ah, I misread, I thought you said “explaining to Natsocs like you” and not “explaining Natsocs to you.” My bad, I apologize.

                That being said, you were the one coming in to dispute my claim that fascism is right-wing, and the second I pushed back you said it would be a waste of time to explain, I just think that’s a bit silly. Did you expect me to fully agree with you instantaneously?

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                  Ah ok no harm no foul then!

                  And I provided a link you didn’t read, you provided a link I didn’t read. Fair’s fair. Plus it isn’t actually about convincing you, it’s about leaving a record to let other people read and not just take your words at face value. You’re too far gone.

                  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                    For clarity, I did read the link you sent. I’ve read it before.

                    Plus it isn’t actually about convincing you, it’s about leaving a record to let other people read and not just take your words at face value. You’re too far gone

                    That’s fine, I am doing the same for you. I doubt you’ll be convinced, but it’s important to correct blatant misconceptions about Marxism IMO.