This make me feels somewhat awkward.
Bootlicker.
Europe is going to pay in a BIG way
no joke, that defence spending increase is going directly to US pockets.
JDPON mark rutte, helping to bring about that unlimited genocide on the first world
Translation: “Thanks to your stupid politics, you managed to pull EU closer and finally decide on things for Greater good.”
🤮
What a pathetic little worm Rutte is.
“What can we do to make it look like Israel is not committing war-crimes?” - Mark Rutte right before he got promoted to NATO chief.
I’ve had him as prime minister of my country for many years, so this is no surprise.
Well i just found out some of these NATO leaders were Nazis so NATO might just be a white supremacist group technically.
NATO is just a millitary alliance for the purpose of maintaining Western Imperialism, which is headed by the US Empire.
The US empire had to influence because there is a lot of historical white supremacy.
White supremacy is a huge factor, for sure, but don’t discount the economic factor; the US economy is built on imperialism, and without it would crumble.
Wait, you think it hasn’t been a major global power for centuries? 😅 Oh, my sweet, summer child.
nato was formed in the wake of ww2, less than one century ago, so…
White supremacy and its myriad permutations/historical rebrandings’ve been a parasitic worm at the heart of many/most civilizations since the dawn of mankind. 🤌🏼
Oooh,I thought you meant NATO was ruling the world for centuries, my bad
🤣 … 🫣
the north-atlantic terrorist organization has spoken
By the way Rutte changed the wording in the agreement to be more vague as to what ‘allies’ means because Spain refused to agree to 5%.
Anyone else remember when libs were fearmongering that Trump will leave NATO and leftists said “don’t threaten me with a good time”?
I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
Liberals are right-wing. Always have been, always will be.Liberal Dutch are not under the progressive umbrella,
so while the Dutch progressive party is advocating to stop the war,
Dutch liberals are in full support of it.??? What does Dutch libs have to do with this? I meant Usians and others here advocating for voting for Harris. They are naturally pro-NATO so they were using argument people should vote for Harris because Trump said he will make USA leave NATO, while it’s obvious NATO is one of prime tools of US imperialism and no way US will leave it and so Trump lied there, and the asskissing in the OP is clear proof.
Rutte is a Dutch lib.
European leftists want out of NATO and they have actual political parties that can win.I have no idea what did you even read in my post, but it’s a complete non seqitur.
Brain-rot exists. I constantly have to remind my right-wing shit head coworkers that they have more in common with liberals than I do.
"Well whatabout™ this lib rep or that one???”
Great, go get them. Drag them into the street and eat them to absorb their power or hang them in your basement with a ball gag for all I care. They are you’re homies, not mine.
obviously, I doubt Rutte was expecting this message to be shared. If he wasn’t a complete moron and actually doing this just to stroke his own ego, I’d actually give Donald props for leaking it, as Rutte kissing Donald’s ass makes him look terrible, and more broadly makes the European parts of NATO look terrible.
I imagine Rutte’s intent is to stroke Trump’s ego to try and keep him interested in NATO, but I feel like that’s a fool’s errand. Trump doesn’t give a shit about anyone else but himself. This new agreement, with NATO signatories needing to commit 5% of their GDP, feels like a grift for the benefit of U.S. defense contractors. The U.S. cannot be trusted to actually honor their agreements anymore, so why pay more into their alliance? Is Europe really that scared of further Russian aggression?
Well Rutte’s job is basically to keep NATO together, can’t blame him for trying. Personally I would not be sad if NATO chucked the US and told them to pack their bases all around Europe and go home. But I understand Rutte’s position.
Rutte is trans-atlanticist. These people will do anything to keep the peace with the US.
They’re Joshua Wongers with diplomatic talent.I’d love it if that happened, but that would also mean the dissolution of NATO, so I don’t see why NATO would motion to kill itself voluntarily.
NATO could very well exist without the US in it. It’s not like the other members can trust the US to help at this point.
NATO with 0 US arms or millitary power wouldn’t be nearly as effective. The EU could have its own treaty, but it would be entirely limited in capability.
Certainly, it would be more limited in capability on paper, but now they have a big member who likes bossing the others around and is also a huge liability. Losing that would be a serious win.
The US has always been at the helm of NATO. The US Empire is the reason NATO exists, the EU is thoroughly vassalized and subservient to the US. If the US was kicked out of NATO (lol), NATO would crumble, and the EU would be forced to either trade more with Russia or China to make up for the utter loss of their position in the western imperial system. The EU cannot stand on its own, it depends on imperialism, and currently relies on the US sphere of influence to perpetuate itself.
Yeah yeah, US exceptionalism much? You would be surprised how little Europe depends on the US, but as you imply, it’s become an abusive relationship that Europe needs to get out. Russia is no alternative for the US. The reason Europe needs to sever ties with the US is that it has become too much like Russia. China? Yes Europe does a lot of business with China already, that is not about to change.
Is Europe really that scared of further Russian aggression?
Western Europe is afraid of Russia gaining influence in regions and resource rich areas that they seeks to dominate.
Europeans online think that Rutte is ‘masterfully manipulating’ Trump by talking to him like a 5 year old and are extremely proud of this.
3d chess move by Rutte, kissing Trump ass and conceding his demands, a masterful move indeed.
What else would or should Rutte have done?
His allegiance is with the liberal party,
without the progressive party and without the social liberal party.
There’s some people flocking to his party these days thinking that liberal party
must mean left-wing through US cultural osmosis, but they remain pro-atlanticist and right-wing.
This new agreement, with NATO signatories needing to commit 5% of their GDP, feels like a grift for the benefit of U.S. defense contractors. The U.S. cannot be trusted to actually honor their agreements anymore, so why pay more into their alliance? Is Europe really that scared of further Russian aggression?
They’re massively investing in European defense industry, not just buying more from the US. They are scared of Russian aggression and they are scared the US will not honor NATO agreements which is why they’re committing so hard to defense spending. Also, I believe it’s 3.5% for military and 1.5% for infrastructure.
False. Europe is spending big money on American weapons. The independence story was only an excuse to get more money.
As for the Russia story, nice to see Red Scare works as good as in America when they dismantled their healthcare for the military industrial complex.
They are also spending big on domestic arms production. France will be a big winner out of this since they’ve long valued independent military arms production and the rest of Europe will want to buy French stuff (yes along with American stuff) while they get their arms production up and running. South Korea is also a big arms supplier internationally.
The reduction in US support for NATO is largely part of a pivot to focusing on Taiwan and China. The US military industry would love it if the US focused on both and kept cozy relations with europe. I’m sure they’re happy with the whole world increasing defense spending amid rising tensions, but they aren’t happy about the US scaring away customers. I hate how involved the US military is globally but acting like Trump is some mastermind of American imperialism is reductive and giving him too much credit. The thought that Europe shouldn’t be worried about Russia (the ones currently invading a European country) is bonkers.
Does Trump not realize that this message makes himself look bad?
afaik he doesn’t have a brain
How does it make him look bad?
it doesn’t
No. The message here is “look at how I´m having my dick sucked”
Yep. But the point is Donald doesn’t realize his dick is getting sucked by someone trying to get a favor out of him rather than just because he’s such a swell guy.
He’s a narcissist. All he sees is compliments, not the clear manipulation behind them.
Give Trump praise, he’ll do exactly what you say. Which is why he thinks Putin is his best friend. Putin is just using Trump as a convenient idiot that’ll do anything asked as long as Trump feels he’ll be complimented by it.
All he has to say is something like:
“Oh Donny, at this time your big hands and strong will are our only hope. Won’t you please bomb Iran to protect the world and become it’s hero?”
And that’s all it takes to start WW3. And Trump would post the message thinking it’s a compliment.
Still… As a European it (well…) sucks that any of our leaders would need to go this low for favors. Even if indeed they would go for 5 percent, the message should be “thank you, and now fuck off”. It is clear he sees Europe as an enemy and it is very likely this 5pcent is to drag our economies down while he saves his from the disaster he’s creating (where do you think Europeans mostly get their weapons and military equipment from?).
So cocksucker rutte (and all the spineless clique except for Spain) gonna get assfucked too
I mean, he also paints himself orange and thinks it’s hot…
the one looking bad is the one kissing his ass, he is pretty much saying "look at your secretary general kissing my ass 😂 "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idIxeAYnLGk
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte says he has ‘no problem’ with US President sharing private message
Of course not, it was the entire idea.
This message is so obviously sucking his asshole, they couldn’t be more obvious yet Trump obviously has no idea
The cheeto really has a long list of mental issues, doesn’t he?
I’ve have said this before but WW3 will start because of a meme or ChatGPT.
